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29 Feb 2008, 10:54 pm

I was wondering on your views on God? Please answer in a polite manner.Do you feel God is love?

Is God in your life? Your thoughts on God?


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29 Feb 2008, 11:46 pm

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Your thoughts on God?


He's make believe. Actually, strike that. A leprechaun once saved me from the clutches of god once and we rode away on our unicorn to the land of the spaghetti monster.



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29 Feb 2008, 11:48 pm

preludeman wrote:
Do you feel God is love?


God is love
Baby don't hurt me
Don't hurt me
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01 Mar 2008, 12:46 am

preludeman wrote:
I was wondering on your views on God? Please answer in a polite manner.Do you feel God is love?

Is God in your life? Your thoughts on God?


I am a Christian of no denomination, familiar but not totally agreeing with Grudem.

Assuming God's existence He would have to be committed to loving us; if you think about all the insults that He and His children receive His nature of Agape love would be necessitated. I think where John says "God is love" can be too easily misread to mean whatever the reader wishes. Agape is love of the will, which is God's love; Phileo is brotherly love or friendship; Storge is affection or a love of people, animals, things based on qualities and needs; Eros is sexual "love" or attraction rather.

Yes, God is involved in my life, just not constantly. At times He has helped me understand things and has been my conscience in many cases. I have seen miracles in Jesus' name, such as my birth father dying for minutes at a time with no pulse and his eyes yellow and glossed, my mom and a neighbor prayed over him and he came back long enough to go to the hospital (where he died permanently that night). I have also personally been "slain in the Spirit" as it is called, where the pastor lightly put his hand on my head and I became immediately unconscious for about 10 minutes. I could give other examples, mostly from my past though. Since I had become partially agnostic in my late teens God has been involved to a lesser extent although still here. I am no longer agnostic due to my research and getting sick of talkorigins' ad hominum attacks and whatnot, but I think I'm to rely on memories and research more than direct involvement now. I don't know, that's just how I see it.

My thoughts on God? The God of the Bible seems to be the only one that fits the bill, the rest are too incredible to attempt believing. I'm going to stick with the Bible and its theology rather than try to go after some pantheon of hosts.



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01 Mar 2008, 1:00 am

I have a deep fear of "God", if that is what you wish to call it, which I believe may have ruined my life.



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01 Mar 2008, 2:06 am

Imaginary.

I also sort of look at God as a bubble, or a stepping stone, or a layer to be peeled back. The next bubble to pop after the Santa Claus bubble is popped.


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01 Mar 2008, 9:25 am

I believe in Him, but I don't feel he is vengeful and full of wrath.


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01 Mar 2008, 10:53 am

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I find belief in god a powerful, useful, and often inspiring cognitive construct

I think Pascal puts it well, "At the centre [of every human being; that's what Pascal says, i DON'T assume this. ] is a god-shaped space"... I am finding this to be astonishingly true.

I have discovered that it is sometimes/often difficult to "feel" god as love; except when are being "good", ( doing what seems right in what feels like gods regard), god quickly seems like an oppressive brooding tyrant, which is a real turn off, and makes me think i'm going to stop believing in god, at which point think i understand why belief in Jesus Christ and teachings was such an important new construct; just thinking " there is life after death" in the same breath as "all your sins are forgiven" with a wee bit of belief helps to lift the pressure. And feels so wonderful i remember why i believe in god.

In my experience so far belief in god puts life in relief, adds depth, and also makes sense of so many things in writings, films, paintings, aswell as society, which had previously passed me by, that even when it starts to feel like a demand i still don't want to give it up. It's like adding another dimension to life, like 3D chess compared to 2D.

i am finding belief in god transformational. It's very interesting. For instance I don't do it ( believe) as much of the time as i thought i would because it is so powerful. It's as if it hurts unless are prepared/able to do everything which seems right under that "gaze". It takes effort, which surprised me. But shouldn't have done! :) Of course it's hard work; otherwise why have people spent their whole lives in contemplation of god etc?

I imagine, correct me if i'm wrong, that people who believe in god from childhood might find it easier because the process is supported on habit. On daily repetition of the principal aids to belief, the responses to belief etc.

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01 Mar 2008, 11:04 am

I don't believe in God, but rather I believe in the Force.

Seriously, I'm agnostic but don't believe in any gods as they're depicted in religious books or institutions.


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01 Mar 2008, 11:24 am

The fact is, there is no proof to support the concept of God, and no proof to oppose it.

If and until further evidence either way presents itself, I am agnostic.


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02 Mar 2008, 12:37 am

a being probably more like a malevolent faerie but history changed his reputation
on earth he doesn't show himself or have any real power
just a book some people wrote and claim its real
there is no actual proof this god exists



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02 Mar 2008, 6:14 am

Phagocyte wrote:
The fact is, there is no proof to support the concept of God, and no proof to oppose it.

If and until further evidence either way presents itself, I am agnostic.


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02 Mar 2008, 6:59 am

Politics and social control can be more easily linked to God, then it can to science. God is the ultimate big brother. He has more CCTV cameras then Central London. They might be dummy cameras but they do the job none the less. You are suppose to receive a fine through the post when you are dead. Nobody can prove this however.



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02 Mar 2008, 7:06 am

Phagocyte wrote:
The fact is, there is no proof to support the concept of God, and no proof to oppose it.

If and until further evidence either way presents itself, I am agnostic.


There is proof that believing in a God is evolution eventuality. When NTs are concerned, they would make up a god regardless of if there is one or not. The is no proof that a tea pot with 2-spouts circle the sun in an invisable forcefield. But there is no political reason for believing that such a thing could exist

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02 Mar 2008, 8:32 am

Aspie_Chav wrote:
There is proof that believing in a God is evolution eventuality. When NTs are concerned, they would make up a god regardless of if there is one or not. The is no proof that a tea pot with 2-spouts circle the sun in an invisible forcefield. But there is no political reason for believing that such a thing could exist


I've much about Bertrand Russel's orbital teapot. However, I am atheistic in regards to a specific, superhuman being in the sky who judges us, but agnostic in regards to, perhaps, some sort of deeper or unifying order.


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02 Mar 2008, 11:20 am

i think hes an alien from another world and men made a religion out of him


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