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22 Mar 2008, 9:02 am

Gleefully patronizing, that is the attitude which the international media has adopted towards China now that trouble has stirred in Tibet again. Even though most people do not know the kind of violence which the small groups of Tibetans law-breakers unleashed on helpless innocents of all race, they are quick to condemn the Chinese for taking action to stop such wanton destruction of property and reckless endangerment of life. Apparently it is wrong to find and punish criminals who destroy cars, burn down shops and hack with knives and machetes women and children, for the international media and attention seeking politicians cannot stop telling you that China is the cauldron of evil. Why is it wrong to uphold the law which grants peace and freedom to the citizens of a country that has worked so hard to break the shackles of poverty? Support China or at least learn more about the Tibetan regime you have romanticized before pointing a finger. The truth will shock you



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22 Mar 2008, 10:15 am

You're kidding, right? China is an oligarchy claiming to be communist(like the USSR). They are WORSE than the USSR. I don't know HOW any Americans can work there, but they risk EVERYTHING for extra profit, so you KNOW they aren't real good. It is said that sam walton would be AGAINST such things that walmart now does.

They either care NOTHING about their own citizens, or are fighting a quiet war with us by INTENTIONALLY hurting us, with our KIDS being the most direct target. They ENFORCE abortions! They THREATEN tiwan! How much more evidence do you need that they are NOT decent people!?!?!?

BTW If a guy just SHOOTS you, it is legal SOMEWHERE! Laws aren't always just or right.



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22 Mar 2008, 10:46 am

How come this is under the "General Autism Forum?"



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22 Mar 2008, 10:50 am

This belongs in PPR. Mods, please move it.

China is very rarely in the right. They are a brutal, oppressive regime which shows no qualms about murdering their own people.


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22 Mar 2008, 11:04 am

Free Tibet



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22 Mar 2008, 11:09 am

China supported the murdering of unborned and borned babies with the one child policy law. They see people as numbers and not people. This is why their products still suck. They, like most communists, don't see the individual for who they are. s**t, maybe China has Aspergers.



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22 Mar 2008, 11:22 am

spudnik wrote:
Free Tibet


QFT

a regime led my the most peaceful man on the planet?

I think not.



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22 Mar 2008, 11:34 am

Zeno wrote:
Gleefully patronizing, that is the attitude which the international media has adopted towards China now that trouble has stirred in Tibet again. Even though most people do not know the kind of violence which the small groups of Tibetans law-breakers unleashed on helpless innocents of all race, they are quick to condemn the Chinese for taking action to stop such wanton destruction of property and reckless endangerment of life. Apparently it is wrong to find and punish criminals who destroy cars, burn down shops and hack with knives and machetes women and children, for the international media and attention seeking politicians cannot stop telling you that China is the cauldron of evil. Why is it wrong to uphold the law which grants peace and freedom to the citizens of a country that has worked so hard to break the shackles of poverty? Support China or at least learn more about the Tibetan regime you have romanticized before pointing a finger. The truth will shock you


You want my opinion?

It is controversal but the bottomline there is Tibet protest is not just they want to be rebel. It about a providence that doesn't want to follow the China's way of program like government, culture, ritual, etc. It not about destroying China.

In case you haven't realize, Mongolia, Nepal, and Vietnam used to be part of China. Should we ask them what they think about Tibet?

According to Vietnam information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam

Vietnam used to be part of China since B.C

Vietnam were named because they were the "South China" Viet - ethnic group Nam - South.

This map was printed according to China excluding the boundaries in 1914

See http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 1-0148.jpg

Please notice that Mongolia and Nepal was part of China according to the China assigned color.

It was until the 1949 that YOU lost control of Mongolia and Nepal, instead of recovering your boundaries. You abandon them in the aftermath of WW2! With all dues respect to the chinese people who have fallen to the Japanese military. And the chinese people that were fallen to the communist army in the aftermath of WW2 which by the way have CHANGE the China's cultural government.

You going to argue that Tibet shouldn't be independent and yet you let Mongolia, Nepal, and Vietnam independent?

Don't give me an excuse that United States can give up their state too when they never have. That is an invalidated argument.

Sound to me that China is trying to be like Russia in the Soviet Union era when they were controlling countries like Poland, Romania, Kosovo, etc. They were called the Soviet bloc.



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22 Mar 2008, 11:45 am

FREE TIBET!! !


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22 Mar 2008, 11:53 am

Zeno, the good brain-washed communist.

You believe everything your government tells you?

I live in the US - supposedly the freest country in the world (yeah, right) and I don't believe a single word that comes out of Bush's mouth. Why? I can formulate opinions for myself.



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22 Mar 2008, 1:35 pm

China is very active on the internet doing its best to foul up sites that might oppose its official policies. This thread might be part of the Chinese government's efforts.



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22 Mar 2008, 1:37 pm

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22 Mar 2008, 2:27 pm

Sand wrote:
China is very active on the internet doing its best to foul up sites that might oppose its official policies. This thread might be part of the Chinese government's efforts.

Probably not.


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22 Mar 2008, 3:31 pm

China gets a lot of flak because it is virtually the only big power left apart from USA. It has inherited some of the USSR's old role. Therefore I do think it is important to examine western reports about China with care.

However I agree that their one child policy was a huge mistake. Which resulted in much suffering , as did their HIV and blood donor policies.

Then again if the USA's mistakes were laid end to end.... We see almost without exception only the negative stories about China, the ones the western powers want us to see.

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22 Mar 2008, 4:31 pm

According to the U.N. China's actions can be considered genocide for multiple reasons. Not only is the Tibetan ethnicity being rubbed out, but so too is their religion and the U.N.'s legal definition of genocide includes targetting religious groups as well as ethnic or racial groups. Another genocide going on in China now is against the Falun Gong religious group.

And yes, the 1 child policy is another form of genocide according to the U.N. criteria. If you try to limit births within a group then that's a form of genocide.



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22 Mar 2008, 7:19 pm

I DO support China for various reasons. I am adamantly opposed to Tibetan "self-determination" because if they were to become and independent nation they would be a dirt-poor third world country, something like Nepal. Part of my support for China is that they are anti-Western and challenge US Hegemony but I am not overly in love with the Tibetans either. Thats NOT to say the Chinese dont have plenty of things that need improvement! :P