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08 Apr 2008, 7:08 pm

I think if countries are supposed to be have freedom of religion they should know about the different religions out there so they could make a choice. Anybody agree?



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08 Apr 2008, 7:29 pm

Umm.... I don't understand how countries make a choice on religion. I would not be opposed if public schools had classes on understanding religion and philosophy, but otherwise, the issue seems hard to define.



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08 Apr 2008, 7:31 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Umm.... I don't understand how countries make a choice on religion. I would not be opposed if public schools had classes on understanding religion and philosophy, but otherwise, the issue seems hard to define.


sorry if I was not specific enough I meant the people should have the knowledge to make an informed choice and have an understanding of the other religions aroud them :)



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08 Apr 2008, 7:43 pm

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sorry if I was not specific enough I meant the people should have the knowledge to make an informed choice and have an understanding of the other religions aroud them :)

So, are you arguing that people have a moral imperative to study all of the religions to make a choice on that? Would you say that there is a moral imperative to study all of the types of peanut butter before making a choice on that? I mean, I can see why a person might call it wise, but I don't see why it should be forced. Not only that, but why necessarily religion? There are lots and lots of other things that are important for human existence that people don't understand very well.



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08 Apr 2008, 8:00 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
matsuiny2004 wrote:
sorry if I was not specific enough I meant the people should have the knowledge to make an informed choice and have an understanding of the other religions aroud them :)

So, are you arguing that people have a moral imperative to study all of the religions to make a choice on that? Would you say that there is a moral imperative to study all of the types of peanut butter before making a choice on that? I mean, I can see why a person might call it wise, but I don't see why it should be forced. Not only that, but why necessarily religion? There are lots and lots of other things that are important for human existence that people don't understand very well.


It is only to make an informed choice, it is not like you have to believe in any specific religion you are just learning about them. It would be done academically as a history class. I would say it goes to be taught about the different kinds of peanut butter, but the peanut butter you choose is your hcoice and your choice alone. If one does not like peanut butter then they have that choice as well :)



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08 Apr 2008, 8:18 pm

matsuiny2004 wrote:
It is only to make an informed choice, it is not like you have to believe in any specific religion you are just learning about them. It would be done academically as a history class. I would say it goes to be taught about the different kinds of peanut butter, but the peanut butter you choose is your hcoice and your choice alone. If one does not like peanut butter then they have that choice as well :)

Well, I can understand the ways it could be done. Frankly, I don't have an issue with public education systems having a class on that, but I just don't see why this is so important. People are not going to make informed choices no matter what you do on this issue and heck, informed choices really don't matter so much on this issue anyway. It is as arbitrary as peanut butter as I stated.



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08 Apr 2008, 8:20 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
matsuiny2004 wrote:
sorry if I was not specific enough I meant the people should have the knowledge to make an informed choice and have an understanding of the other religions aroud them :)

So, are you arguing that people have a moral imperative to study all of the religions to make a choice on that? Would you say that there is a moral imperative to study all of the types of peanut butter before making a choice on that? I mean, I can see why a person might call it wise, but I don't see why it should be forced. Not only that, but why necessarily religion? There are lots and lots of other things that are important for human existence that people don't understand very well.


What are those other things?



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08 Apr 2008, 8:23 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
matsuiny2004 wrote:
It is only to make an informed choice, it is not like you have to believe in any specific religion you are just learning about them. It would be done academically as a history class. I would say it goes to be taught about the different kinds of peanut butter, but the peanut butter you choose is your hcoice and your choice alone. If one does not like peanut butter then they have that choice as well :)

Well, I can understand the ways it could be done. Frankly, I don't have an issue with public education systems having a class on that, but I just don't see why this is so important. People are not going to make informed choices no matter what you do on this issue and heck, informed choices really don't matter so much on this issue anyway. It is as arbitrary as peanut butter as I stated.


I understand your point that there are other problems, but I do think it is more important than peanut butter it does have some benefit



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08 Apr 2008, 8:42 pm

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What are those other things?

Every subject currently studied in public school, along with anthropology, and perhaps sociology. Most people really don't know a lot, and if they are taught something that does not apply to their lives then they forget it the second that they don't need it.



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08 Apr 2008, 8:43 pm

matsuiny2004 wrote:
I understand your point that there are other problems, but I do think it is more important than peanut butter it does have some benefit

Peanut butter has benefit too and in terms of studying it, for the public it would probably be no different than peanut butter. Most people don't remember much of what they are taught anyway.



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08 Apr 2008, 9:02 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
matsuiny2004 wrote:
What are those other things?

Every subject currently studied in public school, along with anthropology, and perhaps sociology. Most people really don't know a lot, and if they are taught something that does not apply to their lives then they forget it the second that they don't need it.


you could teach them how to apply it to their lives :)



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08 Apr 2008, 9:04 pm

matsuiny2004 wrote:
I think if countries are supposed to be have freedom of religion they should know about the different religions out there so they could make a choice. Anybody agree?


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08 Apr 2008, 9:09 pm

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you could teach them how to apply it to their lives :)

But it is hardly applicable unless you deal with a lot of religious people or unless you are religious yourself. To the average person it would be viewed as useless like most of our other subjects.



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08 Apr 2008, 9:12 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
matsuiny2004 wrote:
you could teach them how to apply it to their lives :)

But it is hardly applicable unless you deal with a lot of religious people or unless you are religious yourself. To the average person it would be viewed as useless like most of our other subjects.


humans especially NT's (no offense) will do tasks as long as they have a purpose or can get something out of it, that is how many of them work. If there is a purpose for them to know it they will know. that being said you can never make everyone happy, but you can try to make as many of as happy as you can :)



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08 Apr 2008, 9:29 pm

matsuiny2004 wrote:
humans especially NT's (no offense) will do tasks as long as they have a purpose or can get something out of it, that is how many of them work. If there is a purpose for them to know it they will know. that being said you can never make everyone happy, but you can try to make as many of as happy as you can :)

Well, yes, but how can you really make this study purposeful for a large percent of the populace? If they won't have a purpose in learning this then what is the point? We don't give these kids books for the sake of bookishness.



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08 Apr 2008, 9:41 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
matsuiny2004 wrote:
humans especially NT's (no offense) will do tasks as long as they have a purpose or can get something out of it, that is how many of them work. If there is a purpose for them to know it they will know. that being said you can never make everyone happy, but you can try to make as many of as happy as you can :)

Well, yes, but how can you really make this study purposeful for a large percent of the populace? If they won't have a purpose in learning this then what is the point? We don't give these kids books for the sake of bookishness.


I am only in my second semester of college, I will start looking at it from more of an NT perspective later on. Right now they are just concepts that have barely been defined