McCain's Treatment of His ex-Wife

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John McCain, left his first wife, Carol Shep, and model, after she was disfigured in an automobile accident. He said he lost 4 inches in height, and gained weight. She was also disfigured in the accident. They had three children.

He then married his current wife, and was dating her before he finalized his divorce. His new wife was more than 17 years younger than him.


Do you think McCain was immoral to do this?

dunno about that but....


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c[/youtube]

Those video makers are pretty good, but don't you think this is a testament to someone's character?

Well, how would you feel about your partner after such an incident? I don't think I could possibly remain with a partner who was badly disfigured and I wouldn't except my partner to remain 100% committed.

You're not being entirely honest however. Carol was in an accident when McCain was a POW. He returned and was still with her, until he filed for divorce in `80. He still is an adulterer, but how moral are candidates? They're not religious figures.

And he's one of those people who goes on and on about the "sanctity of marriage"

You don't always have to agree with or accept the lifestyles of the people who put the laws in place or advocate a stricter form of it. When a doctor asks you to stop smoking, and you spot him in the "lounge" smoking a box full will you then say "You are a hypocrite! I will not listen to you anymore!" ???

These men are politicians. They are not Saints. The situation here is something that cannot be understood fully, also. I doubt the many of you would remain with your partner 100% committed. He is deceitful, yes. But he is a politician. That is his job.

I like how you say politicians are deceitful, it's like saying they can't speak the truth because they think we need to be protected?
Oh and to answer question, if she was happy with it and had the emotionnal and financial support needed, i suppose it wouldn't hurt as much. Otherwise if she committed suicide (which i'd doubt, but heh) well, that could be another story.

Sen. McCain? He looks rather uncomfortable when talking about gay marriage as an issue.

I think you've got him confused with a stereotype.

I think that public figures' personal lives are none of our business. If a public figure chooses to make the public aware of a specific part of his/her personal life, then that specific part alone is our business, should we choose to take interest in it.

It is a waste of time to worry about things that do not effect us.

We cannot possibly know enough about these people's personal lives to pass judgment of any kind.

Public figures should be judged by their careers - politicians by their political actions, musicians by their music, etc.

Last edited by EvilKimEvil on 24 May 2008, 12:54 am, edited 1 time in total.

Blame the media. How many people before the eventual rise of television would know, or care, about the personal lives of the politicians?

Actually, it's funny but i'm doing a research on the 1836 election of Martin Van Buren, and i read somewhere that the Whig party tried to discredit Van Buren on the next elections of 1840 by talking about his tastes for luxury (which was false apparently...) and his sexual preferences whilst painting a rather fair portrait of their own candidate William H. Harrison as being close to the people etc. (when he was from a noble family from Virginia...)

Yeah, the 1840 election is legendary in terms of creating a candidate with a totally bogus public image.

I've even heard some theories that it was President Harrison's rejection of his image as an uneducated country bumpkin born in a log cabin that caused him to want to impress everyone with his 2 hour long innaugeral address on a freezing wet day. He earned himself a cold that eventually killed him a month later.

Shortest presidency ever: 30 days, 12 hours and 30 minutes i think.

Yes, and like many conservatives who attempt to legislate the personal lives of others when they can't even keep their own pants zipped, as is the case with McCain, they can always fall back on that famous and simple-minded ploy, "I strayed, but my wife and God forgave me, and I'm a better man for it!"

Getting God to back you up is one of the first lessons in Getting Laid 101 for conservatives.

It also works pretty well for instigating foreign wars and deflecting one's own responsibility for the deaths of tens of thousands of people - all you have to do is say that you consulted a higher power, as George W. Bush did, and you're good to go.

It's all God's doing, y'know!

I don't mean to pick on oscuria in particular, but his suggestion that he wouldn't stick with a partner who became facially disfigured is amazing to me, given that in other threads he has rushed to judged other relationships for being immoral or shallow. If dumping someone because of physical appearance isn't shallow, then I don't know what is. How could you claim to really love someone if you go and do that?

I know politicians aren't saints, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be called out on their hypocrisy. At least McCain didn't dump his wife while she was undergoing cancer treatment a la Newt Gingrich.

Yeah, that was my reaction - he's really quick to judge others (including me) for our so-called lack of morality.