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oscuria
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28 May 2008, 6:19 am

Sharon Stone's encounter with Karma.


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I'm not happy about the way the Chinese are treating the Tibetans because I don't think anyone should be unkind to anyone else, And then all this earthquake and all this stuff happened, and I thought, is that karma?



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Ng See-Yuen, founder of the UME Cineplex chain and the chairman of the Federation of Hong Kong Filmmakers, called Stone's comments "inappropriate". According to a story in trade magazine Hollywood Reporter, he vowed not to show Stone's films in his theatres.

Stone's comments also created a swell of anger on the internet, including at least one Chinese website devoted solely to disparaging her comments.

The Beijing Times also reported that some major Beijing department stores had removed advertisements for cosmetic and couture giant Christian Dior, which feature Stone's image.



So many people with such little understanding of Karma.


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28 May 2008, 7:32 am

ahahaha celebrities really crack me up. by and large, a shower of smug, half-witted, ignorant cretins.


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28 May 2008, 8:44 am

oscuria wrote:

So many people with such little understanding of Karma.


Sharon Stone's comments remind me of Earl on My Name's Earl - pop karma. Or like the televangelists who said Katrina was God's punishment for the US not smacking gays and feminists often enough to keep them in their place. Earthquakes and hurricanes are not caused by governmental policies that someone finds objectionable, although the impact of these natural disasters may be shaped by policies such as building codes, zoning, etc.

And the Chinese government that stomps on Tibet also has no idea what karma is or how it operates.



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28 May 2008, 4:09 pm

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And the Chinese government that stomps on Tibet also has no idea what karma is or how it operates.


That is because the Chinese government is not going to admit Karma exists. Their country is largely Buddhist but how Buddhist is its government? It isn't.

And you're correct. It is all pop-religion to the typical westerner. "Yo dude, that was karma!" Yeah...right.


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28 May 2008, 4:15 pm

THANK YOU!

If there's one thing I hate it's people simplifying and adulterating a very simple but very true concept.

'Pop karma' ...I like it.


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28 May 2008, 4:15 pm

she's as stupid and as worthless as the preachers saying katrina was god's will.

well..except that she's a relatively attractive female and many guys could easily find worth in that.



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29 May 2008, 9:11 pm

Sharon Stone, commit a faux pas?



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29 May 2008, 10:45 pm

monty wrote:
oscuria wrote:

So many people with such little understanding of Karma.


Sharon Stone's comments remind me of Earl on My Name's Earl - pop karma. Or like the televangelists who said Katrina was God's punishment for the US not smacking gays and feminists often enough to keep them in their place. Earthquakes and hurricanes are not caused by governmental policies that someone finds objectionable, although the impact of these natural disasters may be shaped by policies such as building codes, zoning, etc.


Maybe the gays and feminists should have been smacked a little more, who knows? The aftermath was without a doubt the fault of Dubya. :P



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29 May 2008, 10:46 pm

skafather84 wrote:
she's as stupid and as worthless as the preachers saying katrina was god's will.

well..except that she's a relatively attractive female and many guys could easily find worth in that.


I bet you could, huh? :wink:



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02 Jun 2008, 6:57 am

I get her point, though Karma doesn't work that way. Karma means that whatever you do to others, you may well receive back. Similar to the Law of Threefold Return, which means if you do good to someone, you get it back threefold. Same if you do something bad, you get that back threefold as well. China's maltreatment of Tibet and its own people warranted some redress, but the earthqake was not a direct consequence. It would be easier for China to let Tibet go, but being as they are on a power trip, and subjugation is their name, they'll hang on for as long as possible. Sort of reminds me of a couple of other nations I know of....


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02 Jun 2008, 9:30 am

I would say the Red Chinese had an earthquake coming to them. Tiannamen Square is good reason. Falun Gong and Tibet are two others. I think the earthquake was a pretty good example of bad actions producing bad results. Karma 101. But what about New Orleans? For all their laviciousness and excess, they are not the Yellow Peril and they never were.



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03 Jun 2008, 1:39 am

The_Chosen_One wrote:
I get her point, though Karma doesn't work that way. Karma means that whatever you do to others, you may well receive back. Similar to the Law of Threefold Return, which means if you do good to someone, you get it back threefold. Same if you do something bad, you get that back threefold as well. China's maltreatment of Tibet and its own people warranted some redress, but the earthqake was not a direct consequence. It would be easier for China to let Tibet go, but being as they are on a power trip, and subjugation is their name, they'll hang on for as long as possible. Sort of reminds me of a couple of other nations I know of....



Really? So when a child is born with a life-threatening disease, what karma did he commit? The act of being born?

When a person is born with talent, a prodigy, why did karma bestow upon the child such a skill?


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03 Jun 2008, 2:36 am

Unlike Christianity, to use Raggy's analogy, when we are born, whatever is decided for us comes from our previous lives. So, if we stuffed up in this life, Karma would decide what happens in in the next. Same goes for whatever good is done. It's all accounted for.


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03 Jun 2008, 3:36 am

The_Chosen_One wrote:
Unlike Christianity, to use Raggy's analogy, when we are born, whatever is decided for us comes from our previous lives. So, if we stuffed up in this life, Karma would decide what happens in in the next. Same goes for whatever good is done. It's all accounted for.


Then if Karma works from previous works, how sure are you that the earthquake was from China's acts against human rights, and not because of the villager's previous works?


Do you believe that you can destroy karma? Do you believe you can wash away karma? Or do you believe Karma is permanent to all creation? Is the Creator of Karma Itself afflicted by karma?


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03 Jun 2008, 3:49 am

When you think about it, the earthquake is actually helping China as the aftermath brought unity to the people. Thousands came to help, thousands poured their hard earned money to the victims.


Karma appears to be helping the Chinese unite, rather than punishing them (those who are repressing the people).


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03 Jun 2008, 7:45 am

The_Chosen_One wrote:
Unlike Christianity, to use Raggy's analogy, when we are born, whatever is decided for us comes from our previous lives. So, if we stuffed up in this life, Karma would decide what happens in in the next. Same goes for whatever good is done. It's all accounted for.


I agree. How else can you explain crack-babies and Paris Hilton?

But this does not abnegate a preson's free will. :study: