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oscuria
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10 Sep 2008, 6:46 pm

They're annoying and repetitive.

CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE!


Discuss.


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10 Sep 2008, 6:50 pm

not to mention LIES LIES LIES.. and his inability to get information right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

nor does he properly salut the national anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwog6E08CFU

he's smart though.. i bet he's thinking.. if i make stupid LITTLE mistakes then no one will see the giant lies behind the scenes.. same reason George Bush jnr makes a lot of errors.. IMO :) keep em laughing at the little things..



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10 Sep 2008, 6:51 pm

...and pigs in lipstick.

I think he just threw away the women's vote.



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10 Sep 2008, 6:54 pm

I know! He is just soooo much worse than bush, right?? I mean, hell, bush was the best, right?!


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10 Sep 2008, 6:56 pm

history_of_psychiatry wrote:
I know! He is just soooo much worse than bush, right?? I mean, hell, bush was the best, right?!

Hey! Bush was funny at least.


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10 Sep 2008, 6:56 pm

history_of_psychiatry wrote:
I know! He is just soooo much worse than bush, right?? I mean, hell, bush was the best, right?!


"Read my lips... What?"




The equivalent of an Obama speech.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqL_amaUlp0[/youtube]

Senseless and shameful. :(


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10 Sep 2008, 6:57 pm

twoshots wrote:
history_of_psychiatry wrote:
I know! He is just soooo much worse than bush, right?? I mean, hell, bush was the best, right?!

Hey! Bush was funny at least.


so is Obama.. watch it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
and tell me he aint funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwog6E08CFU



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10 Sep 2008, 9:58 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:
not to mention LIES LIES LIES.. and his inability to get information right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

nor does he properly salut the national anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwog6E08CFU

he's smart though.. i bet he's thinking.. if i make stupid LITTLE mistakes then no one will see the giant lies behind the scenes.. same reason George Bush jnr makes a lot of errors.. IMO :) keep em laughing at the little things..


Well, if you were interested in the truth, you might check out a non-partisan organization like factcheck.org ... neither campaign is 100% accurate all the time, but it is pretty clear that team McCain is going for more overt distortions of the truth, including their fear-based portrayal of Obama's tax policy, and the recent allegations that Obama was a leader for 'comprehensive sex education for kindergardeners' - which was basically an age-appropriate unit on teaching kids about dealing with strangers and adults that want to fondle them.

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...and pigs in lipstick.

I think he just threw away the women's vote.


John McCain used the same term to deride Hillary Clinton's health care plan less than a year ago, Barack Obama has used the term before Sarah Palin was on the political scene. Don't forget about Dick Cheney - he often uses the phrase.

What did Obama say?

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Obama used the reference as he criticized McCain's policies as similar to those of Bush, saying: "You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080910/ap_ ... a_lipstick


Anyone who thinks he was calling Palin a pig needs to get their grammar examined. This is a BS controversy.



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10 Sep 2008, 10:05 pm

monty wrote:
Well, if you were interested in the truth, you might check out a non-partisan organization like factcheck.org ... neither campaign is 100% accurate all the time.


Welcome to the world of politics...



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10 Sep 2008, 10:18 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
monty wrote:
Well, if you were interested in the truth, you might check out a non-partisan organization like factcheck.org ... neither campaign is 100% accurate all the time.


Welcome to the world of politics...


Thanks, but I'm not a newcomer.

You misquoted me - the word time should not be followed with a period, rather with an ellipsis ... there was another set of connected thoughts, and you changed the totality of meaning by editing it that way. I'm sure an extremist moderate like yourself understands the importance of accuracy in describing the positions of others. :)



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10 Sep 2008, 10:28 pm

monty wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
not to mention LIES LIES LIES.. and his inability to get information right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

nor does he properly salut the national anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwog6E08CFU

he's smart though.. i bet he's thinking.. if i make stupid LITTLE mistakes then no one will see the giant lies behind the scenes.. same reason George Bush jnr makes a lot of errors.. IMO :) keep em laughing at the little things..


Well, if you were interested in the truth, you might check out a non-partisan organization like factcheck.org ... neither campaign is 100% accurate all the time, but it is pretty clear that team McCain is going for more overt distortions of the truth, including their fear-based portrayal of Obama's tax policy, and the recent allegations that Obama was a leader for 'comprehensive sex education for kindergardeners' - which was basically an age-appropriate unit on teaching kids about dealing with strangers and adults that want to fondle them.

Postperson wrote:
...and pigs in lipstick.

I think he just threw away the women's vote.


John McCain used the same term to deride Hillary Clinton's health care plan less than a year ago, Barack Obama has used the term before Sarah Palin was on the political scene. Don't forget about Dick Cheney - he often uses the phrase.

What did Obama say?

Quote:
Obama used the reference as he criticized McCain's policies as similar to those of Bush, saying: "You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080910/ap_ ... a_lipstick


Anyone who thinks he was calling Palin a pig needs to get their grammar examined. This is a BS controversy.


Obama just seems better because he is better at lieing... and besides I saw Obama say loud and clear and i quote : "Obama believe in teaching sex education to kindergardeners" - Obama.. did he revoke that comment?



10 Sep 2008, 11:03 pm

Anyone hear about Obama calling Palin a pig, false.


http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... nding.html


His words were taken out of context. He didn't mean we should teach sex in kindergarden.



http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... ex_ed.html

What he said was misleading

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... obama.html



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11 Sep 2008, 10:22 pm

Whoa there Spokane_Girl, let's see if we can crank down the substance in this k?

Obama seems like such personality cult kind of guy. Gives me the heebee jeebees.


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11 Sep 2008, 10:24 pm

twoshots wrote:
Whoa there Spokane_Girl, let's see if we can crank down the substance in this k?

Obama seems like such personality cult kind of guy. Gives me the heebee jeebees.

Well, just hope you graduate before his 2nd term, that's when we get pictures of him in every classroom that children must salute.



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12 Sep 2008, 12:06 am

ShawnWilliam wrote:
I saw Obama say loud and clear and i quote : "Obama believe in teaching sex education to kindergardeners" - Obama.. did he revoke that comment?


He referred to himself in the 3rd person? Do you have a reference for that?



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12 Sep 2008, 12:13 am

LKL wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
I saw Obama say loud and clear and i quote : "Obama believe in teaching sex education to kindergardeners" - Obama.. did he revoke that comment?


He referred to himself in the 3rd person? Do you have a reference for that?


i just went looking for that video again and found a different one that was extended and realised that he was actually quoting something McCain said :? .. wow.. i guess that's politics.. taking things out of context.. but he says it's the right thing to do as long as it's 'age appropriate'.. what sex education is age appropriate for kindergardeners?