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25 Nov 2008, 12:55 pm

The Curse of Greyface is one of the most important parts of Discordianism. It features prominently on several pages of the Principia Discordia. According to the Principia, Greyface was a man who lived in the year 1166 BC and taught that life is serious and play is sin. The curse is a psychological and spiritual imbalance that results from these beliefs.

Greyface encouraged his followers to "Look at all the order around you" (Principia Discordia page 00042) and somehow convinced mankind to agree with his ideas about Serious Order. The Principia notes that it is something of a mystery why Greyface gained so many followers when anyone could have looked at all of the disorder in the world.

Greyface and his followers took the game of playing at life more seriously than they took life itself and were known even to destroy other living beings whose ways of life differed from their own.
—Malaclypse the Younger, Principia Discordia, Page 00042

For more details, see also the section "THE CURSE OF GREYFACE AND THE INTRODUCTION OF NEGATIVISM" in the fifth edition of Principia Discordia.

By accepting that life is a serious, orderly matter, the followers of Greyface end up viewing things as either orderly or disorderly. In this system, order is preferred to disorder at all costs. This preference results in both constructive order and destructive order.

The alternative is to view things as either constructive or destructive. In this system, construction is preferred to destruction. Selecting construction results in both constructive order and constructive disorder.


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25 Nov 2008, 1:14 pm

Well done, Grasshopper.

Discordianism is more easily learned than taught.


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25 Nov 2008, 1:20 pm

its all comming back to me now, on why i hate any type or religious/philosophy


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25 Nov 2008, 1:42 pm

seriously huh? sounds freaking boring...


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25 Nov 2008, 1:44 pm

anna-banana wrote:
seriously huh? sounds freaking boring...
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25 Nov 2008, 2:24 pm

Fnord wrote:
Well done, Grasshopper.

Discordianism is more easily learned than taught.



mainly because of the prevalence of the curse. though i'm more interested in malaclypse the younger's views and not the literalistic approach of omar.


probably gonna form my own loose semi-sect but not really. because any dedicated organized sect would just be disgraceful.


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25 Nov 2008, 10:34 pm

As it seems to me the concept of order and disorder is related to the perception and confusion in the mind of the observer. Whenever a so-called disordered situation is analyzed it is discovered to be highly ordered. There are situations on the subatomic level which appear to be totally random but on the level of human perception everything seems to be an interpenetration of different systems of order. Most human conflict in the matter concerns different preferences for one type of order or another.



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25 Nov 2008, 11:55 pm

skafather84 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Well done, Grasshopper.

Discordianism is more easily learned than taught.

mainly because of the prevalence of the curse. though i'm more interested in malaclypse the younger's views and not the literalistic approach of omar. probably gonna form my own loose semi-sect but not really. because any dedicated organized sect would just be disgraceful.

'Tis better to simply be discordant, than to pollute the purity of discordance with any semblance of organisation.


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26 Nov 2008, 2:41 am

Fnord wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Well done, Grasshopper.

Discordianism is more easily learned than taught.

mainly because of the prevalence of the curse. though i'm more interested in malaclypse the younger's views and not the literalistic approach of omar. probably gonna form my own loose semi-sect but not really. because any dedicated organized sect would just be disgraceful.

'Tis better to simply be discordant, than to pollute the purity of discordance with any semblance of organisation.



how do you know that the organization isn't from the disorder of a different interpretation?


TO THE BOWLING ALLEY!! !


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26 Nov 2008, 7:28 am

skafather84 wrote:
The Curse of Greyface is one of the most important parts of Discordianism. It features prominently on several pages of the Principia Discordia. According to the Principia, Greyface was a man who lived in the year 1166 BC and taught that life is serious and play is sin. The curse is a psychological and spiritual imbalance that results from these beliefs.

Greyface encouraged his followers to "Look at all the order around you" (Principia Discordia page 00042) and somehow convinced mankind to agree with his ideas about Serious Order. The Principia notes that it is something of a mystery why Greyface gained so many followers when anyone could have looked at all of the disorder in the world.

Greyface and his followers took the game of playing at life more seriously than they took life itself and were known even to destroy other living beings whose ways of life differed from their own.
—Malaclypse the Younger, Principia Discordia, Page 00042

For more details, see also the section "THE CURSE OF GREYFACE AND THE INTRODUCTION OF NEGATIVISM" in the fifth edition of Principia Discordia.

By accepting that life is a serious, orderly matter, the followers of Greyface end up viewing things as either orderly or disorderly. In this system, order is preferred to disorder at all costs. This preference results in both constructive order and destructive order.

The alternative is to view things as either constructive or destructive. In this system, construction is preferred to destruction. Selecting construction results in both constructive order and constructive disorder.


Thank you, this is fascinating.


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26 Nov 2008, 7:32 am

richardbenson wrote:
its all comming back to me now, on why i hate any type or religious/philosophy


Philosophy (or religion for that matter) embraces so many diverse and diametrically opposed positions that my curiosity is aroused as to the nature of your hatred; could you please expand upon it?

Sorry if it sounds like I am treating your hatred as an intellectual curiosity. I do care. Honestly.


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