Do you believe in the New World Order?

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I have aspergers, I think. But more importantly, over the past few years I have become interested in the so-called New World Order conspiracy theory. It is very fascinating because it appears to be real. I have noticed that many people who believe in conspiracy theories tend to have mental health problems. Not that I believe this discredits the actual theories they believe in. Anyway, Im interested do any people on here believe in the NWO and its agenda?

Of course.

Yeah, I do. But things are complicated. I think "they" sometimes put out theoties just to confuse. I'm a huge fan of Alex Jones and I visit the infowars page often. I've also spendt some time reading David Icke, but he somtimemes seems a bit too spaced out for me.

I had coffee a few days ago with the perpetual motion subculture group and I will admit they are a bit strange but they are very good at getting around.

The NWO is true, but I am shutting it down. After fifty years I give up.

There is just not enough intelligence to bring change.

The basic idea was sound, increase knowledge, from Ben Franklin's Leather Apron Group on, while some try to improve, most are working to lower standards.

After hundreds of years I have reached the conclusion that while the Illuminati are brilliant in some fields, they are social idiots.

Recent facts show they fit the description of Asperger's Syndrome.

I can testify to that for sure.

There are 119 new world orders - which one would you be believing in?

The one that is operating at a profit and provides job benefits.

I wrote this here before: What does it mean "New World Order". The order of the world was always in constant change. The peace of Westphalia established a "New World Order", as the French Revolution did or Emperor Augustus.

The nation state is becoming less important? The nation state is on its own a creation of new "New World Order", the end of the feudal system during the Renaissance and the Baroque. Elites are ruling? Name a period in history when elites were not ruling! Money flow is controlled? Have a look in the dealing of the Fugger. Traditional structures are breaking down? Look up what caused the need for the Elizabethan Poor Laws?

So? What is really new?

That's why it is good to be living 'under' the veneer layer of conventional society.

But what does it mean "conventional society"? Out current society is the result of changes of former societies. Each tradition was ones revolutionary. For a person of the 15th or even 16th century the idea of a "state" was revolutionary. To have one emperor was revolutionary for contemporaries of Caesar and Augustus. The idea that the state could take control over the church was revolutionary in 16th century (compare the way Henry II and Henry VIII dad to deal with Rome). When the Imperial Recess of Augsburg 1555 had been made or the Perpetual Peace of 1495 or the Declaration of Rhense in 1338 been made - they were revolutionary.

What I mean is to be above it all by being under it all so as to be almost invisible to the whims and trends and changes in a society of any type.

I believe much of the new world order stuff is true except that it isn't a NEW world order. It's the same world order that's been in existence since the dawn of humankind. I somewhat doubt however that the illuminati are satanists or reptiles. I think that since royalty and powerful people have always inbred, the illuminati are just defected from inbreeding and thus lack a conscience and empathy.

I'm an agnostic as it comes to the whole NWO idea.

I recently read "Them", a book by Jon Ronson. Amazon link here:

http://www.amazon.com/Them-Adventures-E ... 0743227077

While a fan of Alex Jones' work for a while, I was disappointed to find out inadvertently, via this book, that Jones is actually a fascist in the old sense of the word. Not a skinhead, not a neo-Nazi, but a true believer in the idea that *them* (the usual suspects, Jews, specifically Jewish bankers) are running the world, and that the world's leaders are their either willing or unwilling dupes. Jones also showed up as a real head case.

While I believe there are often a lot of corrupt, unethical people among the world's national leaders, and yes some times the worst, most evil people on the globe get way too much power (*ahem* Dick Cheney *ahem* Dubya *ahem* Putin *ahem* 19 fanatics on 9/11) the real problems are created by those particular people, and not by a big world order.

I believe the real idea of New World Order, either by fascists, communists, libertarians, and others is created through simple Gestalt on overdrive. The human brain unconsciously seeks patterns in everything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestalt_psychology

Just throwing my little intellectual pipe bomb into the discussion. Feel free to attack, I'm actually looking forward to being yelled at on WP.

I doubt that the illuminati actually cares very much about ruling the world. There are far more interesting things to be doing.