Oganized religon

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I realy dont like any sort of oganized religion it just becomes a social thing a bussines why do people realy need it to be nice to other people and treat them decently and help when they can if its only to please some church or religon then it fake in a way becuse its not just to please themsleves they have to do it for somthing else I try to do these things for myself.

some feel obligated, some really feel good things about going and doing the stuff. A lot of time, when something has always been done a way, people don't ask why, they just do it. And they don't like being asked to think about it because it makes them realize it is kind of pointless, and they have probably been wasting time for 50 years.

Also, the social connections provided by the gathering are extremely useful to people. It is a social connection that everyone can share in. You might feel a bit odd about meeting a really good friend at a model train club, if you like to build model trains, since perhaps the only thing you have in common is model railroading. But a huge number of people go to church.

And worshipping a creator, and giving thanks, and asking for support, and thinking about life are things everybody can talk about. It isn't like if you are interested in football but only the strategy aspect, not the identifying with the team aspect, or physical excellence, and agression aspect. People who are interested in the strategy but not the "our team" idea have almost nothing they can talk about with people who like the "our team" aspect, but not the strategy. So even though both people have something they like they are kind of seperated from each other.

But just about everyone can talk about life, and hope, and needing support, and all the things churches provide.

Everyone who is an active member of organised religion does it for his or her own reasons. Besides all of the points made above, another common reason why people follow an organised religion is fear that they will go to hell if they don't follow it.

Considering the rules of most religions, everybody is either in hell or going to hell. But that doesn't sound too terrible, since all my friends and family will be there too.

Hey, I am part of an organized religion: The Scientific Community.

I don't have a PHD yet but they like students. We can believe in whatever religion we want.
There aren't that many requirements, just speak your mind.
Also its tough for them to throw you out!

I feel the same way went to school for biology loved it got a degree and work construction
It must be the social thing I never got or having to be told to have to treat people well.



seee ya there

I know some people who believe that everyone becomes tormented by demons after death.
Don't ever think that gives you the right to commit as much harm as you want.
There is a smidgen of proof that not everyone goes to "hell,"
(nevermind the question of its existence) near death encounters

Mithrandir wrote

Not really sure what to make of this I only wanted to know what complelled people to have to belive in some sort of Heven or Hell just to keep them in line and be nice to each other . I find just being nice reward enough. But almost all religions condem you to hell if you dont belive. Meaning everyone of any other group will be there seeing that I belive to treat people well if I am not part of their group thats were I'll be or maybe not I at least I'll have the company of everyone esle. No offence was ment.

What I don't get is the idea that "if you see hell you die"
Is it that people will get so frightened that they die?

To Me there is no real Hell when You die Your thoughts perish in the end. Though I believe in a Resurrection of the Dead back to Earth in a New Earth.

In my family's case (I've mentioned them in a couple other topics), I think they don't really care about Religion at all. They're addicted to the self-righteous thrill and feelings of moral superiority they get by going through all the actions of a True Christian. Some of them claim to believe that all they have to do to be saved is be a Christian, which means they're saved automatically no matter what they do or say, so it's alright for them to try to force a 9 year old to become a Christian by denying him meals. Which is something one aunt tried to do to me, though the others weren't as bad and wouldn't let her do it.

A lot of Christians I know, are Christian because they've been one for so long, they can't comprehend not being one. I had a choir conductor once, who used to ask me all the time, "Doesn't it make you feel empty inside not believing in God?". I said no, why would it? He'd been a Christian for so long, he just couldn't wrap his mind around the concept of someone being happily un-religious. I also got to see this kind of Christianity in my 8 year old cousin. When I told her I didn't believe in God, she screamed "How dare you!" at me. I told her to prove God existed - she stammered and finally choked out, "if you don't obey god you go Down There". Before I could press the issue, a different cousin - who incidentally was one of the first kind I mentioned - told me to stop. I didn't pick an argument with him because it was his house, and because yet another cousin was discrediting my position by being immaturely anti-religion.

On the flip side, two of the nicest people I've ever met were Christians. One was a girl in my creative writing class, who actually believed that "God is Love". The other is my girlfriend. She has no problems with my deism, and believes that in its purest form the Bible is an instruction manual on how to be a good person.