Autistics are immoral?

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18 Apr 2009, 3:07 am

Some [one] on another forum I post on has made, what can only be the most stupid, and insensitive, arguments ever. Either way, it was a debate on whether or not the God of Christianity was the moral law giver yet the guy arguing against Christianity (Hooks) came up with these "insights".

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Evangelicals who successfully incorporate Paul’s claims and doctrines into their set of beliefs have essentially learned to interact with nonbelievers as if they were autistic. This is a strong claim, so please allow me to explain.

Children who are born with autism seem to lack the capacity to understand that others do not see what they see, hear what they hear, and know what they know. Essentially, they lack the ability to empathize without knowing they lack this ability. How do people who were not afflicted with autism at birth begin to think as if they have autism? I would contend this happens when Evangelicals accept as unassailable truths many plainly false claims of the Apostle Paul.

The only way for something immutable and unchanging to empathize is for that thing to be able to read minds, and you cannot do that, so the contention stands. A robot remain unyielding and unaffected by people, and is unempathetic. Regardless, you have no reply to my contention (supported by research) that certainty is not more than an emotion, and remarkably has little, if any, correlation with reality. In a sense then, it is like being drunk. Do you endorse drunkenness? If not, why do you endorse certainty? As you imply later, why should you enter a debate you are not prepared for? Did you read up on all the pathophysiology of certainty. Even more so, what about the pathophysiology of autism. Are you aware, for example, that some have tried (with some measure of success) to treat autism with Narcan, a drug used to treat Alcohol and Narcotic addiction as well? If certainty and autism are in any way related, why would you be so interested in retaining it?

What was funny is that the Christian guy he was debating had Autism. What was even funnier was that even when everybody in the commentary thread said he lost, the guy insisted he was right and that if we went to another forum, everbody would agree. I decided to take him up on his offer and his post his ridiculous sentiments about Autism here.

The commentary thread is here.

I would link to where the debate took place but that specific part of the forum said posts were made is invisible to non-members.

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19 Apr 2009, 7:16 pm

:duh:

Autism is like addiction? That's about all I got from that post. The rest of it doesn't make sense, it's like reading some of George Soros's stuff. Fake intellectualism.
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19 Apr 2009, 7:34 pm

Not sure if he had a valid point about the theology of Paul (can't see the rest of that) and no idea if he was even right that people defending some part of his theology or some apparent misinterpretation are just knuckleheadedly obstinant. All the same, regardless of whether the autism analogy was straight on point with their behavior, the last few lines of the third paragraph were pretty much suicide of integrity. Sounds like someone really wore him down :lol: .

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19 Apr 2009, 7:35 pm

The devil is autistic. :twisted:

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19 Apr 2009, 7:36 pm

I don't understand...

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19 Apr 2009, 7:53 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

The devil is autistic. :twisted:

Unempathic, unsymathetic, unloved, immoral and above all, evil..... he must be.

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19 Apr 2009, 7:58 pm

Nah, the devil is way too charismatic and charming to be autistic. :wink:

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19 Apr 2009, 8:43 pm

well, its hard to take a guy srsly who thinks that by symbolically eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a jewish lich will grant him eternal paradise :twisted:

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19 Apr 2009, 9:53 pm

Sure, autistics are immoral.

What else are we good for anyway?

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20 Apr 2009, 7:53 am

Of course, god must be autistic. People just happen to be his special interest. :wink:

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20 Apr 2009, 12:12 pm

what a JACKASS. 10$ says that he'll get murdered for his irrational beliefs? btw, that is the same as saying "aids cures fags" like damn homophobes do. HATE CRIME he is basically saying Autism cures non-believers of his irrational faith.

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20 Apr 2009, 12:19 pm

i thought it said
"Autistics are immortal?"

Doncostello wrote:

what a JACKASS. 10$ says that he'll get murdered for his irrational beliefs? btw, that is the same as saying "aids cures fags" like damn homophobes do. HATE CRIME

he is basically saying Autism cures non-believers of his irrational faith.

plus he would be comparing autists to the HIV-virus

maybe that could be a slogan: "Autism is the HIV of Religion"

okay, ill shut it now :oops:

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20 May 2009, 5:09 am

Autistics are Ammoral. I am anyway. What is that Hooks guy on about? Maybe he's just inarticulate but his thoughts seem very convoluted.

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20 May 2009, 5:39 am

It's impossible to empathize with someone who doens't make any sense, but I don't think that makes that person (who can't empathize) immoral.

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