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14 Oct 2008, 9:37 am

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I have to admit, I am absolutely baffled by this image and it's relevancy.^

Well. You're critique-ing the bias potential of everyone else's sources. Where did you find this, so I can check out your own.

"Raciest" is the one or thing most "racy". I think philosopherBoi possibly meant "racist", but unfortunately misspelled it many, many times.

Where did I get the image from? Googled "hot nun"; where else? :lol:

[Edit]: Oopsy; someone cut off access to the picture:

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14 Oct 2008, 10:54 am

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You left out "mobster buddy":


No, saving that for McCain - he's married to the mob. Look up James Hensley - bootlegging, theft, illegal operations at a racetrack, able to buy a liquor distributor's license even though he had a felony conviction that disqualified him (can you say 'bribery'?? Sure. I knew you could).

McCain dumped the wife and children that waited for him when he was in Vietnam for a younger, richer heiress who's father was a mobster.



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14 Oct 2008, 11:03 am

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pheonixiis wrote:
I have to admit, I am absolutely baffled by this image and it's relevancy.^

Well. You're critique-ing the bias potential of everyone else's sources. Where did you find this, so I can check out your own.

"Raciest" is the one or thing most "racy". I think philosopherBoi possibly meant "racist", but unfortunately misspelled it many, many times.

Where did I get the image from? Googled "hot nun"; where else? :lol:

[Edit]: Oopsy; someone cut off access to the picture:

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I didn't care about the source for the pic. I just didn't get it except as a dig for a mispelling, which I consider a cheap shot. I should have been more specific sorry.

I was more interested in your source for the article.

Why do you think that Tony R. has Mob connections? Are you thinking Italian Mafia? "Mobster" is an vague and inflammatory term. Proof? High dollar embezzlement and the first name Tony does not a Mobster make. Sorry. That was cute though. Wasn't he born in Syria anyway?


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14 Oct 2008, 2:21 pm

LOL ! !

Yanks get so worked up over elections. Really now, you should adopt our attitude of 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss.' You act like your Republic will crumble into dust if one party or the other wins.
Same old stuff, different faces ...


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14 Oct 2008, 2:23 pm

Maybe it's because the LAST thing we need right now is "more of the same." Our nation IS crumbling.



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14 Oct 2008, 2:27 pm

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LOL ! !

Yanks get so worked up over elections. Really now, you should adopt our attitude of 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss.' You act like your Republic will crumble into dust if one party or the other wins.
Same old stuff, different faces ...


It's how we entertain ourselves Prof. :wink:

Qualitatively speaking, one crook is the same as the next, but we like to maintain the illusion that we get to pick our poison. :lol:


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14 Oct 2008, 2:28 pm

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Maybe it's because the LAST thing we need right now is "more of the same." Our nation IS crumbling.


Your right the United States is being killed off form the inside out, most great empires/nations crumble from within at some point some die out others have to fight to get back where they were.


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14 Oct 2008, 3:33 pm

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Cyberman wrote:
Maybe it's because the LAST thing we need right now is "more of the same." Our nation IS crumbling.


Your right the United States is being killed off form the inside out, most great empires/nations crumble from within at some point some die out others have to fight to get back where they were.


The British Empire shall never crumble ! !!

(Sorry about yours.)


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14 Oct 2008, 3:38 pm

^

*sighs*

Me too. :(


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14 Oct 2008, 4:16 pm

pheonixiis wrote:
I didn't care about the source for the pic. I just didn't get it except as a dig for a mispelling

I got a chuckle out of your misspelling "misspelling". :lol:

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Why do you think that Tony R. has Mob connections? Are you thinking Italian Mafia? "Mobster" is an vague and inflammatory term. Proof? High dollar embezzlement and the first name Tony does not a Mobster make.

Ah...so Tony's 16 felony convictions (six counts of wire fraud, six counts of mail fraud, two counts of corrupt solicitation, and two counts of money laundering) don't bother you so much, nor his sinister connections with your candidate for president. You're worried what tag I choose to call him by. :roll:

Obama & mobsters: Here's one for you:

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A man who has long been dogged by charges that the bank his family owns helped finance a Chicago crime figure will host a Windy City fund-raiser tonight for Sen. Barack Obama.

Alexi Giannoulias, who became Illinois state treasurer last year after Obama vouched for him, has pledged to raise $100,000 for the senator's Oval Office bid.

Before he promised to raise funds for Obama, Giannoulias bankrolled Michael "Jaws" Giorango, a Chicagoan twice convicted of bookmaking and promoting prostitution.

Giannoulias is so tainted by reputed mob links that several top Illinois Dems, including the state's speaker of the House and party chairman, refused to endorse him even after he won the Democratic nomination with Obama's help.

Giannoulias was the bank's vice president and chief loan officer for most of the more than $15 million in loans.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09052007/ne ... dekick.htm

By the way, Giannoulias has a very good chance of taking Obama's Senate seat should he win the White House. 8O



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14 Oct 2008, 4:35 pm

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pheonixiis wrote:
I didn't care about the source for the pic. I just didn't get it except as a dig for a mispelling

I got a chuckle out of your misspelling "misspelling". :lol:


Yes. I'm sure you did. Please note. "Cheap shot". I'm sure you never make spelling or grammatic mistakes in your various vitriolic rushes. :roll:



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Ah...so Tony's 16 felony convictions (six counts of wire fraud, six counts of mail fraud, two counts of corrupt solicitation, and two counts of money laundering) don't bother you so much, nor his sinister connections with your candidate for president. You're worried what tag I choose to call him by. :roll:


Well... As to that. I suppose they do. Any candidate is going to have dubious connections. But I took exception to the 'tag' because in the initial context with which you presented the word "mobster" you were trying to present more 'tags' for Obama.

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Obama & mobsters: Here's one for you:

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A man who has long been dogged by charges that the bank his family owns helped finance a Chicago crime figure will host a Windy City fund-raiser tonight for Sen. Barack Obama.

Alexi Giannoulias, who became Illinois state treasurer last year after Obama vouched for him, has pledged to raise $100,000 for the senator's Oval Office bid.

Before he promised to raise funds for Obama, Giannoulias bankrolled Michael "Jaws" Giorango, a Chicagoan twice convicted of bookmaking and promoting prostitution.

Giannoulias is so tainted by reputed mob links that several top Illinois Dems, including the state's speaker of the House and party chairman, refused to endorse him even after he won the Democratic nomination with Obama's help.

Giannoulias was the bank's vice president and chief loan officer for most of the more than $15 million in loans.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09052007/ne ... dekick.htm

By the way, Giannoulias has a very good chance of taking Obama's Senate seat should he win the White House. 8O


I'll uh... Look into that. Is your only source the New York Post? Or are you going to give the rest like I asked?


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14 Oct 2008, 5:09 pm

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Is your only source the New York Post? Or are you going to give the rest like I asked?

Here ya go: 27,700 hits. You're welcome. http://www.google.nl/search?q=Giannouli ... =firefox-a

UncleBeer deigns to help those unfamiliar with Mr. Google. :lol:



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14 Oct 2008, 5:21 pm

UncleBeer wrote:
Ah...so Tony's 16 felony convictions (six counts of wire fraud, six counts of mail fraud, two counts of corrupt solicitation, and two counts of money laundering) don't bother you so much, nor his sinister connections with your candidate for president. You're worried what tag I choose to call him by. :roll:


Should it bother us? He was convicted, is doing the time. His 'sinister' connections to Obama are inferred - you have to believe it to see it. Rezko was part of a multimillion dollar fundraising effort for President Bush - should the Senate rush to impeach Bush over that?



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14 Oct 2008, 5:28 pm

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UncleBeer wrote:
Ah...so Tony's 16 felony convictions (six counts of wire fraud, six counts of mail fraud, two counts of corrupt solicitation, and two counts of money laundering) don't bother you so much, nor his sinister connections with your candidate for president. You're worried what tag I choose to call him by. :roll:

Should it bother us? He was convicted, is doing the time. His 'sinister' connections to Obama are inferred

Hardly. In fact, Rezko is reportedly singing to the Feds now even as we speak. We'll see what it yields.

Further along these same lines:

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Boiling down a complex blog entry by P.U.M.A. pundit, Tony Rezko used Alexi Giannoulias bank to float $450,000 in bad checks, while campaigning for Alexi’s brother Demetris to be placed on the Illinois Finance Authority Board.

Demetris Giannoulias was on the Board at the Crossroads Fund, a Chicago Based left wing organzation supported by Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn and Barack Obama, which made grants to such stellar organizations as ACORN and other affordable housing swindlers.
http://www.cdobs.com/archive/our-column ... ma%2C1866/

In 2002, Rezko borrowed $10.5 Million from Broadway Bank, the Giannoulias family bank, the same bank where Barack Obama kept his Senate campaign funds. In 2006, Sen. Obama endorsed Alexi Giannoulias for Illinois State Treasurer, and gives Sec. Giannoulias a slot to speak at the Democratic National Convention.

Glad to see all these upstanding folks able to work so well together, too bad that Rezko doesn’t want to serve time, and holds quite a bit of information about the Chicago Political Establishment that may be interesting to the Feds.


Welcome to the fetid swamp of Chicago politics.



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14 Oct 2008, 5:47 pm

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Hardly. In fact, Rezko is reportedly singing to the Feds now even as we speak. We'll see what it yields.


Inference and innuendo.

I might be worried if my name were Blagojevich, but my sources indicate that Rezko has no testimony of illegal activity by Obama. Nice for you that you can suggest that someone is going to reveal a massive criminal conspiracy when there is no evidence, no proof - but I guess that is how smears work. Unlike the legislative investigation that found that Palin actually did violate Alaska's ethics laws.



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15 Oct 2008, 1:30 am

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... someone is going to reveal a massive criminal conspiracy when there is no evidence, no proof - but I guess that is how smears work.

Heh. Not unlike the "McCain might have had a tryst 8 years ago with a Washington lobbyist, but we have absolutely no proof whatsoever" frontpage story the NYTimes ran back in March. This, while turning a blind eye to Edwards' broad-daylight dalliance. One can only laugh at what passes for journalism these days.

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Unlike the legislative investigation that found that Palin actually did violate Alaska's ethics laws.

Let's review: An investigator (Branchflower) who is friends and colleagues with both the accuser (Monegan) and Democratic State Senator and overseer of the investigation Hollis French (who promised an "October Surprise" even before the investigation began, yet refused to recuse himself).

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Branchfire has piled a guess (that the Palins wanted Wooten fired, rather than, for example, counseled, disciplined, or reassigned) on top of an inference (that when the Palins expressed concern to Monegan about Wooten, they were really threatening to fire Monegan if he didn’t fire Wooten) on top of an innuendo (that Gov. Palin “fired” Monegan at least in part because of his failure to fire Wooten) — from which Branchflower then leaps to a legal conclusion: “abuse of authority.” Branchflower reads the Ethics Act to prohibit any governmental action or decision made for justifiable reasons benefiting the State if that action or decision might also make a public official happy for any other reason. That would mean, of course, that governors must never act or decide in a way that makes them personally happy as a citizen, or as a wife or mother or daughter, and that they could only take actions or make decisions which left them feeling neutral or upset. This an incredibly shoddy tower of supposition, and a ridiculous misreading of the law.

Branchflower puts under a microscope every direct and indirect contact that can possibly be claimed to to come, directly or indirectly, from Gov. Palin or her husband, Todd. In none of them did either Sarah or Todd Palin demand or request that Wooten be fired. Some of them date back to before Gov. Palin was even a candidate for governor. All of them are equally well explained by legitimate concerns that Wooten was a potential threat to the Palin family (having already made death threats against Gov. Palin’s father) and/or an embarrassment to the Alaska Department of Public Safety and the entire state law enforcement community. That the Palins also had strong — and entirely understandable! — negative feelings about Trooper Wooten does not make any of these communications remotely improper, much less illegal.

Nevertheless, Branchflower leaps to the personal conclusion (page 67 of the .pdf file) that “such claims of fear were not bona fide and were offered to provide cover for the Palins’ real motivation: to get Trooper Wooten fired for personal family related reasons.” Well, here’s another memo to Mr. Branchflower: When the family is question is the family of the Governor of Alaska, and when her security detail is charged with protecting her from threats, and in the process of that, the security detail actively seeks out information as to who may have previously made death threats against the family, that’s no longer solely a “personal family related reason.” And when someone like Trooper Wooten threatens to bring ridicule and shame to the entire state of Alaska, that’s no longer solely a “personal family related reason” either.
http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/10/11/who-is-steve-branchflower/

This all, despite Monegan's declaration:

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"For the record, no one ever said fire Wooten. Not the governor. Not Todd. Not any of the other staff," Monegan said Friday from Portland. "What they said directly was more along the lines of 'This isn't a person that we would want to be representing our state troopers.'"

The 'report' is nothing short of a bald-faced politically-motivated hatchet job.