Dutch Scientists Grow First Pork Meat In Lab

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30 Nov 2009, 4:07 pm

Dutch Scientists Grow First Pork Meat In Lab

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A Dutch project that launched in 2005 has finally borne fruit: cells from a delicious pig have been cultured in the laboratory to grow the first successful filet of in vitro pork, The Times reports.

The prospect of vat-grown meat has been the stuff of science fiction for quite a while, and the subject of serious study for over a decade. A number of groups, including odd bedfellows NASA and PETA, see it as the answer to feeding a hungry world, without all the unpleasant externalities of large-scale meat production. And many vegetarians say they would not have an ethical dilemma eating meat if no animal was killed to produce it.

The team at Holland's Eindhoven University extracted muscle cells from a living pig and incubated them in an appetizing nutrient broth "derived from the blood products of animal foetuses," according to The Times. Future lab meat will be grown in a synthetic medium instead......


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30 Nov 2009, 5:04 pm

richie wrote:
Dutch Scientists Grow First Pork Meat In Lab

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A Dutch project that launched in 2005 has finally borne fruit: cells from a delicious pig have been cultured in the laboratory to grow the first successful filet of in vitro pork, The Times reports.

The prospect of vat-grown meat has been the stuff of science fiction for quite a while, and the subject of serious study for over a decade. A number of groups, including odd bedfellows NASA and PETA, see it as the answer to feeding a hungry world, without all the unpleasant externalities of large-scale meat production. And many vegetarians say they would not have an ethical dilemma eating meat if no animal was killed to produce it.

The team at Holland's Eindhoven University extracted muscle cells from a living pig and incubated them in an appetizing nutrient broth "derived from the blood products of animal foetuses," according to The Times. Future lab meat will be grown in a synthetic medium instead......


I wonder if the Orthodox would consider it kosher?

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30 Nov 2009, 6:48 pm

This was foretold in Margaret Atwood's book Oryx and Crake, a book that manages to be horrifying and extremely funny at the same time. It's set in the not too distant future and is about genetic engineering run amok.



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30 Nov 2009, 7:04 pm

It was foretold a teeny-tiny wee bit before that. :wink: Her Penelopiad is neat, but there's a special circle of Hell (full of TV screens playing Star Trek on repeat, or some equally horrific fate) for science fiction authors who deny writing it. :lol:

*ahem* And as a veggie, that looks extremely tasty, though I guess those animal foetuses might want their blood back... :lol:


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30 Nov 2009, 7:39 pm

I want a meat tree


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30 Nov 2009, 8:30 pm

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It was foretold a teeny-tiny wee bit before that. :wink: Her Penelopiad is neat, but there's a special circle of Hell (full of TV screens playing Star Trek on repeat, or some equally horrific fate) for science fiction authors who deny writing it. :lol:

*ahem* And as a veggie, that looks extremely tasty, though I guess those animal foetuses might want their blood back... :lol:


I'm not saying she was the first, but who was it?



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30 Nov 2009, 11:52 pm

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It was foretold a teeny-tiny wee bit before that. :wink: Her Penelopiad is neat, but there's a special circle of Hell (full of TV screens playing Star Trek on repeat, or some equally horrific fate) for science fiction authors who deny writing it. :lol:

*ahem* And as a veggie, that looks extremely tasty, though I guess those animal foetuses might want their blood back... :lol:


I'm not saying she was the first, but who was it?

Well, in this article, there's a link to the appropriate section from Frederik Pohl's 1952 novel The Space Merchants, and I wouldn't be surprised if Asimov or Heinlein hadn't mentioned it before.

Edit: Later, I recalled Heinlein's Methuselah's Children, published in 1941, that includes one of the objects of Dr. Hardy's longevity research - a chicken heart, named "Mrs. 'Awkins", that is being kept alive in a nutrient bath. Mrs. 'Awkins keeps growing, which seems to be the secret to her continued existence. Every so often, Hardy has to trim Mrs. 'Awkins, and the tissue is incorporated into mealtimes aboard the New Horizons in order to stretch her supplies (since the ship had been intended to take a few hundred people to Tau Ceti, not several thousand people to wherever they could escape to).


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01 Dec 2009, 12:36 am

I remember someone having sheets of meet grown for consumption back in the 50s or so (Asimov, I think)...;)

Y'know...I'm wondering if some non-Western scientist is thinking of creating a fatal swine-flu that kills off the whole porcine species....;)


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01 Dec 2009, 8:37 am

Coffeehouses, Amsterdam red light district, euthanasia . . . and now . . . pork in a bottle! O brave new world that has such Dutch stuff in it.

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01 Dec 2009, 2:36 pm

this is exactly why I love science, GMO's and stem cell research! good things come out of playing God! I could eat meat again without having to worry about someone's death and suffering :D


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01 Dec 2009, 2:43 pm

About the project:
I found a article in a Dutch paper. According to the article the meat was not good looking and tasted bad. Now they work on making the consistency better and the taste better.


If the meat would be kosher? Difficult to say. When you read the food laws on the Bible they focus on travel in a desert, coping with difficult circumstances and sicknesses. But nowadays a lot of the rules would not apply to the circumstances Jews live in.

The 'meat' could solve a lot of problems with animals, environment, etc.
Would it be playing God? Maybe, but is the practice of forcing animals in an industrial setting not worse?



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02 Dec 2009, 9:36 am

wow... the possibiities for this technology are endless... imagine being able to eat the flesh of any endangered animal, just by getting a few cells to start with... I wonder if they'll start producing human meat for consumption... i guess that woudn't be cannabalism... what if they could use DNA from extinct creatures, or even dead celebrities?

I'll have an elvis on rye with some pteradactyl wings and a side of wooly mammoth, please, hold the Michael Jackson...



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02 Dec 2009, 10:56 am

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Lab grown meat comes from no beast, be it clean or unclean, hence the kashrut does not apply. Lab grown meat is glop in a test tube.

The Kashrut applies only to the flesh taken from living animals and regulates not only what kind of animal can be eaten, but its mode of slaughter.

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02 Dec 2009, 11:08 am

jrknothead wrote:
wow... the possibiities for this technology are endless... imagine being able to eat the flesh of any endangered animal, just by getting a few cells to start with... I wonder if they'll start producing human meat for consumption... i guess that woudn't be cannabalism... what if they could use DNA from extinct creatures, or even dead celebrities?

I'll have an elvis on rye with some pteradactyl wings and a side of wooly mammoth, please, hold the Michael Jackson...


I recall a short story by Asimov (I think) in which there was a court case involving vat grown human flesh for consumption.

Larry Nivin wrote a short story where aliens traded the rights for human DNA for consumption for medical tech. :)



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02 Dec 2009, 11:12 am

ruveyn wrote:
Fogman wrote:

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Lab grown meat comes from no beast, be it clean or unclean, hence the kashrut does not apply. Lab grown meat is glop in a test tube.

The Kashrut applies only to the flesh taken from living animals and regulates not only what kind of animal can be eaten, but its mode of slaughter.

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As stated above: "The team at Holland's Eindhoven University extracted muscle cells from a living pig and incubated them in an appetizing nutrient broth derived from the blood products of animal foetuses," so this does come from a beast.


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