D'oh: 18% of Americans still believe vaccines cause autism

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09 Feb 2011, 8:27 pm

So if vaccines don't cause Autism then what does?

The rate seems to be growing higher each year. Now they are saying that one or more in a hundred boys have the condition.

Which boys? What do they have in common?
What is the percentage among whites, blacks, hispanics or orientals?
Is it more in some parts of the country than others?

How about other countries? What is the rate in China or Nigeria or Brazil?

Statistics, we need statistics!



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09 Feb 2011, 8:41 pm

Wombat wrote:
So if vaccines don't cause Autism then what does?

The rate seems to be growing higher each year. Now they are saying that one or more in a hundred boys have the condition.

Which boys? What do they have in common?
What is the percentage among whites, blacks, hispanics or orientals?
Is it more in some parts of the country than others?

How about other countries? What is the rate in China or Nigeria or Brazil?

Statistics, we need statistics!


I think it's probably genetic. I'm certain my Dad had Asperger's, and he was born in 1921, in rural eastern Washington. The old west was barely over by the time he was born, and I don't think anyone was getting vaccinated yet.
As for the number of children with autism growing, I think it's more of a matter of kids being diagnosed now with mild or high functioning autism who would have been overlooked in earlier times.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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09 Feb 2011, 10:17 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
I think it's probably genetic. I'm certain my Dad had Asperger's, and he was born in 1921, in rural eastern Washington. The old west was barely over by the time he was born, and I don't think anyone was getting vaccinated yet.
As for the number of children with autism growing, I think it's more of a matter of kids being diagnosed now with mild or high functioning autism who would have been overlooked in earlier times.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I think you could be right. My father was born in 1907 and on hindsight he had all the classic Aspergers symptoms.
I have the condition to a lesser extent and my son has them to a greater extent.

My son has "solved his problem" by moving to Thailand and becoming a Buddhist Monk.
Well, it works for him.



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13 Feb 2011, 3:13 pm

And half of them voted for Bush..... twice.


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13 Feb 2011, 5:20 pm

Are these the same 18% who think they've been abducted by aliens?



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21 Feb 2011, 8:39 pm

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Are these the same 18% who think they've been abducted by aliens?


I wouldn't doubt it. Next new study: "Are alien abductions linked to Autism?" :roll:



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11 Apr 2011, 11:41 am

if vaccines did cause Autism, wouldn't there be A LOT more Autism cases because LOTS of people get vaccinations?



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11 Apr 2011, 6:59 pm

I never got the MMR vaccine, and I haven't been told what other vaccines were skipped for fear of autism-causing chemicals. My mother maintains to this day that if nobody got the MMR, nobody would have autism spectrum disorders, which is the main cause of not only my aspergers symptoms being overlooked, but my problems often being ignored: my family doesn't want to admit that they were wrong.



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12 Apr 2011, 5:10 am

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Well, whether vaccines cause autism or not, I think the real question here is: what percent of Americans believe that injecting 26 vaccines all containing neurologically harmful substances into a child within its first year of life, when the brain and immune system isn't even fully developed yet, will not cause some sort of damage?

What percent of Americans understand that vaccines are the LEAST effective method of protection?

What percent of Americans know that the mortality rate of the measles (and probably various other illnesses) dropped by more than 97% before a vaccine even existed?


I think most Americans are completely brainwashed, ignorant fools, who cannot think for themselves. But then, I think that of more than just Americans, I think that of most people.


Continue on with your double-think, people. You know that the media lies, but you all eat it up anyway. Congratulations.


haha. nice.



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12 Apr 2011, 5:17 am

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if vaccines did cause Autism, wouldn't there be A LOT more Autism cases because LOTS of people get vaccinations?


No. They don't have to put the agents that cause autism in every vaccination shot. That would be too obvious sh4brns, if every vaccination gave someone autism then it would be obvious what the cause was. Dont you think if you were going to give someone a disease, you would put the disease in some of the vials and not all of them, if you didn't want to get caught?



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12 Apr 2011, 5:19 am

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Fo-Rum wrote:
Well, whether vaccines cause autism or not, I think the real question here is: what percent of Americans believe that injecting 26 vaccines all containing neurologically harmful substances into a child within its first year of life, when the brain and immune system isn't even fully developed yet, will not cause some sort of damage?

What percent of Americans understand that vaccines are the LEAST effective method of protection?

What percent of Americans know that the mortality rate of the measles (and probably various other illnesses) dropped by more than 97% before a vaccine even existed?


I think most Americans are completely brainwashed, ignorant fools, who cannot think for themselves. But then, I think that of more than just Americans, I think that of most people.


Continue on with your double-think, people. You know that the media lies, but you all eat it up anyway. Congratulations.


haha. nice.


As stated already, plenty of kids who have received vaccinations never develop autism. But on top of that, very few of them ever had any sort of ill effects due to said vaccinations.
By the way, kid are vaccinated against more than just measles, these days.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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12 Apr 2011, 5:20 am

If it was genetic then autism would actually decrease instead of increase. Think Darwin and natural selection.



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12 Apr 2011, 5:24 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
SaNcheNuSS wrote:
Fo-Rum wrote:
Well, whether vaccines cause autism or not, I think the real question here is: what percent of Americans believe that injecting 26 vaccines all containing neurologically harmful substances into a child within its first year of life, when the brain and immune system isn't even fully developed yet, will not cause some sort of damage?

What percent of Americans understand that vaccines are the LEAST effective method of protection?

What percent of Americans know that the mortality rate of the measles (and probably various other illnesses) dropped by more than 97% before a vaccine even existed?


I think most Americans are completely brainwashed, ignorant fools, who cannot think for themselves. But then, I think that of more than just Americans, I think that of most people.


Continue on with your double-think, people. You know that the media lies, but you all eat it up anyway. Congratulations.


haha. nice.


As stated already, plenty of kids who have received vaccinations never develop autism. But on top of that, very few of them ever had any sort of ill effects due to said vaccinations.
By the way, kid are vaccinated against more than just measles, these days.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


scroll up and read what I posted in response to someone else. If someone is going to put chemicals in a vaccine to give someone a certain "outcome", then they aren't going to put that active chemical in every vial because then it would be traceable.



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12 Apr 2011, 5:28 am

Oh and what I am purposing is that people at the top of the pyramid are intentionally giving out vaccines that screw up the targets dna and/or to give them "disorders".



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12 Apr 2011, 5:31 am

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If it was genetic then autism would actually decrease instead of increase. Think Darwin and natural selection.


As I have stated earlier on this thread, my Dad who had been born in 1921, in rural eastern Washington when the old west was barely over. I seriously doubt he, or anyone else were vaccinated against anything, as he told me he had suffered through all the childhood ailments. But I am absolutely certain he had some degree of high functioning autism. From his description of his own grandfather and other family members, I think a good argument could be made that Asperger's runs in our family. I can't see how it could be anything but genetic.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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12 Apr 2011, 5:34 am

have you ever thought that it could be genetic AND man made. Synthesis. They do it for natural drugs. They do it for Food. They do it for everything.