Mississippi proposition could outlaw birth control.

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07 Nov 2011, 7:39 pm

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In another ridiculous attempt to subvert a legally binding Supreme Court decision, politicians in Mississippi are attempting to declare that fertilized eggs be counted as persons.

The abortion debate has almost no right answer but this is just taking too far. :roll:


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07 Nov 2011, 7:56 pm

Agreed. I have been pissed about this for some time now. The people-- Catholic bishops-- are the ones wanting to implement laws that would ban birth control and abortion. Complete bull crap.

We can't support the people already here.

The people trying to start these laws are bias, and obviously egotistical to think their beliefs are higher than others.

Though I love working for a Catholic hospital due to some of their benefits and such, they do NOT assist in paying for birth control.

What happened to a free country? That never happened in America as far as I'm concerned.


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07 Nov 2011, 7:59 pm

This scare tactic was already debunked unless you are considering abortions to be birth control.

This has no affect on the morning after pill or things of that nature.



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07 Nov 2011, 8:12 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
This scare tactic was already debunked unless you are considering abortions to be birth control.

This has no affect on the morning after pill or things of that nature.


http://news.yahoo.com/why-mississippis-personhood-law-could-outlaw-birth-control-212609540.html


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07 Nov 2011, 8:30 pm

also: will this make miscarriage manslaughter?


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08 Nov 2011, 9:06 am

"Mississippi: Come Feel Better About Your Own State"



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08 Nov 2011, 12:27 pm

There is no way to outlaw the use of contraceptives (see Griswold v Connecticut) but their sale in Old Miss could be outlawed.

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08 Nov 2011, 12:36 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
This scare tactic was already debunked unless you are considering abortions to be birth control.

This has no affect on the morning after pill or things of that nature.


Given the delay between fertilization and implantation, I am less confident of that pronouncement.

If I was an obstetrician or a midwife in this state, I would be preparing to fold up my shingle and move elsewhere. Obstetrics is already plagued with huge liability potential, and this just raises the stakes even higher.


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08 Nov 2011, 12:38 pm

Great idea, Mississippi!


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08 Nov 2011, 5:13 pm

Well fertilized eggs are not persons. They are human individuals however. THat makes them worthy of rights, but the missisip is going to far. :/ Rape victims and people facing death because of say an ectopic pregnancy shouldn't be forced to go ahead with pregnancy.

I don't care what the Supreme Court of the USA thinks personally. I only point out that someone is making a legal argument, I don't support legal arguments.



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08 Nov 2011, 6:06 pm

Ria1989 wrote:
Agreed. I have been pissed about this for some time now. The people-- Catholic bishops-- are the ones wanting to implement laws that would ban birth control and abortion. Complete bull crap.

We can't support the people already here.

The people trying to start these laws are bias, and obviously egotistical to think their beliefs are higher than others.

Though I love working for a Catholic hospital due to some of their benefits and such, they do NOT assist in paying for birth control.

What happened to a free country? That never happened in America as far as I'm concerned.


Evangelicals have jumped onto the birth control-is-murder band wagon for some time now.

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08 Nov 2011, 6:34 pm

Gedrene wrote:
I don't care what the Supreme Court of the USA thinks personally. I only point out that someone is making a legal argument, I don't support legal arguments.


The arguments that the decision of the SCOTUS are binding are true in any court of law. In any court, the judge's decision is final simply because within the confines of the courtroom, that judge is god.


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08 Nov 2011, 7:38 pm

Actually the Mississipi law isn't affected by Roe V. Wade, and is in fact the achilles heel of Roe v. Wade.

Also this would make only some contraceptives illegal, it doesn't make all contraceptives illegal.



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08 Nov 2011, 7:45 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Actually the Mississipi law isn't affected by Roe V. Wade, and is in fact the achilles heel of Roe v. Wade.

Also this would make only some contraceptives illegal, it doesn't make all contraceptives illegal.


But which ones? And how soon till the others might be in danger of being banned?

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08 Nov 2011, 8:39 pm

Well I think social issues belong to the States so I think Mississippi has the authority to do this.

Even though this might turn out to be a short sighted move with many unintended consequences at least it was pushed through at the state level and only hurts Mississippi.



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08 Nov 2011, 8:43 pm

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Well I think social issues belong to the States so I think Mississippi has the authority to do this.

Even though this might turn out to be a short sighted move with many unintended consequences at least it was pushed through at the state level and only hurts Mississippi.


There are people who want to take it to a national level if it passes in ol' Miss.

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