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14 Feb 2014, 6:06 pm

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There are still some people in the United States who associate pedophilia with homosexuality. Needless to say, most gays as well as most straights are only interested in other adults.

I think it's an underlying problem with Russian society that they are not used to social freedom as a collective. I think it's there is overall intolerant attitude toward gay lifestyles which in a country ruled by the orthodox church reflect attitudes only seen in the west back in the 1950s.



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16 Feb 2014, 9:54 am

People trying to save the dogs at Soichi.Too bad they won't get a medal for being kind
http://www.policymic.com/articles/82399 ... these-pups


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16 Feb 2014, 9:54 pm

Sochi Olympics Divide Indigenous Circassians

And in some uplifting news, American Bode Miller wins bronze in the Super G.

Alpine skiing:Tearful Miller remembers dead brother

[img][800:558]http://a.abcnews.com/images/Sports/AP_Miller_SC_140214_16x9_992.jpg[/img]


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17 Feb 2014, 5:29 am

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I like to hope that western countries are getting past that sort of passive approval of homophobia.
Do you not think of Canada as being western then?


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17 Feb 2014, 2:09 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
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I like to hope that western countries are getting past that sort of passive approval of homophobia.
Do you not think of Canada as being western then?


Of course Canada is a western nation. And while you had those sort of homophobic comments in the previous Olympics held in Canada, would you today, even though it's only been a few years? I have to think people can change. I'll make an admission - back in high school and my college years, I was very stupid, which included harboring anti-gay notions. But as I got older, and my life experience grew, I came to realize how worthless such bigotry was. Helping me along that path to enlightenment was my oldest friend, who came out as gay. Today, I am a supporter of LGBT rights, which I see as the new civil rights movement. If I can change in less than a lifetime, I think those people who had made disparaging homophobic remarks in the previous Olympics held in Canada certainly can, too.


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17 Feb 2014, 2:23 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Alycat wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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I like to hope that western countries are getting past that sort of passive approval of homophobia.
Do you not think of Canada as being western then?


Of course Canada is a western nation. And while you had those sort of homophobic comments in the previous Olympics held in Canada, would you today, even though it's only been a few years? I have to think people can change. I'll make an admission - back in high school and my college years, I was very stupid, which included harboring anti-gay notions. But as I got older, and my life experience grew, I came to realize how worthless such bigotry was. Helping me along that path to enlightenment was my oldest friend, who came out as gay. Today, I am a supporter of LGBT rights, which I see as the new civil rights movement. If I can change in less than a lifetime, I think those people who had made disparaging homophobic remarks in the previous Olympics held in Canada certainly can, too.
I don't believe there can be a major change in the beliefs and feelings of a group of people in four years. I don't think the West is less homophobic, just subtler about it. 'Gay' is still used as a word to describe something that is bad. Gay people are bullied verbally.


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17 Feb 2014, 2:28 pm

Alycat wrote:
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Alycat wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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I like to hope that western countries are getting past that sort of passive approval of homophobia.
Do you not think of Canada as being western then?


Of course Canada is a western nation. And while you had those sort of homophobic comments in the previous Olympics held in Canada, would you today, even though it's only been a few years? I have to think people can change. I'll make an admission - back in high school and my college years, I was very stupid, which included harboring anti-gay notions. But as I got older, and my life experience grew, I came to realize how worthless such bigotry was. Helping me along that path to enlightenment was my oldest friend, who came out as gay. Today, I am a supporter of LGBT rights, which I see as the new civil rights movement. If I can change in less than a lifetime, I think those people who had made disparaging homophobic remarks in the previous Olympics held in Canada certainly can, too.
I don't believe there can be a major change in the beliefs and feelings of a group of people in four years. I don't think the West is less homophobic, just subtler about it. 'Gay' is still used as a word to describe something that is bad. Gay people are bullied verbally.


Still, advancements are being made. Not only is such language less tolerated by the rest of us, but physical assaults against gays are no longer tolerated at all, as it had once been, even by the police.


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