WHO to declare bacon and other processed meats carginogenic

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WHO says bacon causes cancer, what d'yall think about that?
I think WHO is full of wHooey! :razz: 63%  63%  [ 19 ]
I believe 'em, red meat is a hazard :o 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
I dunno... :shrug: 20%  20%  [ 6 ]
I just wanna yummy icecream! :chef: 13%  13%  [ 4 ]
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30 Oct 2015, 1:07 pm

This article my hubby found sheds some light on it. Gotta eat a lot of bacon to up your cancer risk significantly. Besides, where is the hype over processed lunch meats, chips, white bread, and tons of other crap that is bad for us? I will continue to enjoy my bacon!! but not eat it at every meal...'cause i'm not an idiot. It's our choice what we eat and put in our bodies. You can't outlaw everything that is bad for someone...and we all have to die from something. These "studies" and articles arising therefrom are slanted to make them say what the person or organization behind it all wants ppl to hear. IMHO. This is a non issue for us at our house.

http://www.wired.com/2015/10/who-does-b ... ot-really/



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30 Oct 2015, 1:09 pm

i better not dehydrate a rasher of bacon then shred it and smoke it in a bong then.



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30 Oct 2015, 1:33 pm

b9 wrote:
i better not dehydrate a rasher of bacon then shred it and smoke it in a bong then.

Sounds like a good idea.


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30 Oct 2015, 1:50 pm

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So when are they gonna ban cigarettes, which I'm sure a lot more people die from than bacon or sausage every day.

I get it! Food is bad! Food is the enemy and we should all be anorexic! But it's cool to get drunk and do drugs and smoke cigarettes! I should just stop eating and get so wasted on substances I won't even notice my body eating its own muscle tissue! That's what they want, isn't it?!

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i don't think it's in the WHO's interest for people to starve themselves.


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30 Oct 2015, 1:54 pm

glebel wrote:
b9 wrote:
i better not dehydrate a rasher of bacon then shred it and smoke it in a bong then.

Sounds like a good idea.

i used to know a small group of people wherein the dominant member liked to smoke the communal bong through chocolate milk.
it was a horrid but bemusing spectacle, and i was astonished that someone would do that, let alone let the bong pass through multiple rounds without a change of milk.
the most astounding thing was that the dominant member drank the fouled chocolate milk from the bong (at his pleasure) with the idea that he would be both nourished well and also benefit from ingesting the THC residue that was dissolved in it.

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30 Oct 2015, 1:54 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
So when are they gonna ban cigarettes, which I'm sure a lot more people die from than bacon or sausage every day.

I get it! Food is bad! Food is the enemy and we should all be anorexic! But it's cool to get drunk and do drugs and smoke cigarettes! I should just stop eating and get so wasted on substances I won't even notice my body eating its own muscle tissue! That's what they want, isn't it?!

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i don't think it's in the WHO's interest for people to starve themselves.

Might this not be a case of the people in WHO coming out with a study just to justify their jobs? I have seen this in botany over the years, and it's all a load of hoo-hoo.


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30 Oct 2015, 1:57 pm

b9 wrote:
glebel wrote:
b9 wrote:
i better not dehydrate a rasher of bacon then shred it and smoke it in a bong then.

Sounds like a good idea.

i used to know a small group of people wherein the dominant member liked to smoke the communal bong through chocolate milk.
it was a horrid but bemusing spectacle, and i was astonished that someone would do that, let alone let the bong pass through multiple rounds without a change of milk.
the most astounding thing was that the dominant member drank the fouled chocolate milk from the bong (at his pleasure) with the idea that he would be both nourished well and also benefit from ingesting the THC residue that was dissolved in it.

it takes all kinds to make a world of different kinds.

Back when I used to smoke weed, we would use orange juice for the flavor, but no one drank it. I would imagine that with all the tar in the chocolate milk, if he kept it up, he developed a nice case of stomach cancer.


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30 Oct 2015, 2:03 pm

glebel wrote:
b9 wrote:
glebel wrote:
b9 wrote:
i better not dehydrate a rasher of bacon then shred it and smoke it in a bong then.

Sounds like a good idea.

i used to know a small group of people wherein the dominant member liked to smoke the communal bong through chocolate milk.
it was a horrid but bemusing spectacle, and i was astonished that someone would do that, let alone let the bong pass through multiple rounds without a change of milk.
the most astounding thing was that the dominant member drank the fouled chocolate milk from the bong (at his pleasure) with the idea that he would be both nourished well and also benefit from ingesting the THC residue that was dissolved in it.

it takes all kinds to make a world of different kinds.

Back when I used to smoke weed, we would use orange juice for the flavor, but no one drank it. I would imagine that with all the tar in the chocolate milk, if he kept it up, he developed a nice case of stomach cancer.

very nice indeed



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30 Oct 2015, 10:12 pm

glebel wrote:
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Now that smoking is not so common, but people dying from cancer still is, they have too present us with a different reason for the high cancer rate in the West.
Anything will do, as long as the blame is laid at the feet of the consumer and not the establishment.


In all fairness, the tobacco industry is accused - rightly so - of murder everyday. That may soon be the case with the food industry. I'm just not seeing how the consumer is being blamed.

I personally lean towards stress as the leading cause of cancer. Where the mind goes, there goes the body.


If you're talking about physical stress, then to be sure, tobacco use can put the body through a whole lot of stress.


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31 Oct 2015, 2:53 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
glebel wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Nambo wrote:
Now that smoking is not so common, but people dying from cancer still is, they have too present us with a different reason for the high cancer rate in the West.
Anything will do, as long as the blame is laid at the feet of the consumer and not the establishment.


In all fairness, the tobacco industry is accused - rightly so - of murder everyday. That may soon be the case with the food industry. I'm just not seeing how the consumer is being blamed.

I personally lean towards stress as the leading cause of cancer. Where the mind goes, there goes the body.


If you're talking about physical stress, then to be sure, tobacco use can put the body through a whole lot of stress.

No, actually I'm talking about mental stress. People were never meant to be packed together like rats in a cage, which is what cities do to them. This leads to stress.


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31 Oct 2015, 3:48 pm

the IARC list categorizes how strong the evidence is, not how carcinogenic something is.

The evidence is that eating 'processed meats' increases your chances of butt cancer from substantially less than 1% to still substantially less than 1%.

Unless you also get enough fiber in your diet. Then the risk is the same as if you didn't eat bacon.



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31 Oct 2015, 3:53 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
the IARC list categorizes how strong the evidence is, not how carcinogenic something is.

The evidence is that eating 'processed meats' increases your chances of butt cancer from substantially less than 1% to still substantially less than 1%.

Unless you also get enough fiber in your diet. Then the risk is the same as if you didn't eat bacon.

Yeah. Plus, experiments on diets are always a bit dodgy, as control is difficult to maintain.

Always take stuff like this with a pinch of salt.

Besides, if you're and idiot and subsist on mostly on bacon, you're far more likely to die from heart disease before the cancer gets you.



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31 Oct 2015, 6:30 pm

glebel wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
glebel wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Nambo wrote:
Now that smoking is not so common, but people dying from cancer still is, they have too present us with a different reason for the high cancer rate in the West.
Anything will do, as long as the blame is laid at the feet of the consumer and not the establishment.


In all fairness, the tobacco industry is accused - rightly so - of murder everyday. That may soon be the case with the food industry. I'm just not seeing how the consumer is being blamed.

I personally lean towards stress as the leading cause of cancer. Where the mind goes, there goes the body.


If you're talking about physical stress, then to be sure, tobacco use can put the body through a whole lot of stress.

No, actually I'm talking about mental stress. People were never meant to be packed together like rats in a cage, which is what cities do to them. This leads to stress.


While I agree that mental stress contributes to all sorts of maladies, including cancer, I think there's enough evidence to suggest that substances such as tobacco, asbestos, and maybe even certain foods are also contributors. And let's not forget the genetic part of the equation, though I suspect bad habits like smoking makes genetics destiny in such cases.


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04 Nov 2015, 3:48 pm

Oh........... yes everyone better begin to hoard as much black forest ham and sausage as the end is near for, what W.H.O. has said, Bacon and other processed meats are deadly...
Personally, there are many things in this world which are dangerous, in fact there are chemicals in most water supplies(of a drinkable nature) throughout north America though, no one really takes a good look at this argument as well, the Sun itself has the potential to cause cancer though, has this stopped people from being Mayan Sun worshipers and sitting in a beach chair for hours upon hours getting intensely toasted? Nope, not really.


Yes, there are some things as human we can try to limit but, to all out remove would be absurd.


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04 Nov 2015, 5:57 pm

Old news, there are old studies on red meat, processed meat and cancer.

This was from 2007:
http://www.naturalnews.com/021808_cance ... ntion.html

and this was from 2011:

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/the-t ... eat?page=1

It's all old news really, there are tons of studies about it, I don't understand the sudden hype.