Britain has not become racist overnight
- The post-Brexit ‘hate-crime spike’ is not all that it seems.
Following the Brexit vote there has been a panic about an apparent ‘spike’ in hate crime. An increase of 57 per cent was widely reported, and, on Twitter, a new hashtag, #PostRefRacism, started trending, with tweeters listing incidents from around Britain. It seems many people, both online and offline, have had personal experience of post-Brexit, racist Britain.
Any incident of racism or xenophobia is abhorrent and should be challenged. But the speed with which Remainers have exploited this apparent surge – in what is, at this point, largely anecdotal reports – has been shameful. Acting like the propaganda wing of the EU establishment, they have rushed to confirm the prejudices of the elites by arguing that these vague statistics and endless tweet allegations show just how racist the working-class, Leave-voting public is.
The media have been all over it. One BBC reporter asked if the vote had opened a ‘tidal wave of hatred’. Numerous articles in the Guardian have claimed that Brexit has ‘unleashed’ racist sentiment across the country. One commentator seriously claimed that ‘every Leave voter’ had encouraged racism – which was ironic, given that the same commentator voted to remain in an institution responsible for the deaths of thousands of non-European migrants in the Mediterranean every year. The onset of panic has revealed how the very publications and commentators who once claimed to stand up for the working class in fact view working-class people as a violent, racist horde.
As is said: the supposed 'spike' in racism is not all it seems. And 'hate crime' is such a nebulous term that it can mean anything from a dodgy, often 'homourous' comment (the kind that can be seen as humourous in a different context, or by a different person) to xenophobic nonsense on the Internet to racial abuse in the street to real life, full-blown kicking the crap out of someone.
Britain has been racist for several centuries.
At one time England's treatment of the Irish bordered on genocide.
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I agree with the statement about the way the Irish were treated, but there's way too many generalisations going on.
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New group called Change Britain has been set up which is the leading Leave Campaign politicians getting together to try and put pressure on the govt to do whatever they want them to do.
when it came to talking money they say 'any savings made as a result of no longer having to pay into the EU budget (assuming the UK leaves the single market) should be spent on guaranteeing continued funding for farming, science and universities', which is very different to the Leave Campaign's leading slogan a few months ago about it being £350M a week, and that it will go on the NHS.
cue angry brexiters taking to social media to release their rage
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The "sins of the father argument" was tried here in Australia to justify genocide of the original inhabitants and (mostly) to avoid financial reparations in the same way the Germans and Japanese squirmed after accusations of genocide and profiteering off civilians after WWII. The British crown originally accepted Captain James Cook's claim that Australia was "terra nullius" which in latin literally mean't devoid of humans. The legacy was aboriginal Australians were under the jurisdiction of the same government department that looked after "flora and fauna" till 1967. The wealth we Australians (like the Brits and Americans) enjoy was harnessed from the blood of innocent slaves and murdered natives. Lets not forget the money from slave picked Virginia tobacco went into the coffers of the British crown prior to 1776. Gold from piracy, cheap labour in Asia sending spices, textiles and metals and bullion from selling opium to China also bought wealth into Britain. It may be somebody else who did the raping and pillaging but you are I are living of the proceeds of crime. At least I acknowledge what my ancestors did.
You have a naive view of the world. Mass immigration is a product of lassaiz faire neo-liberal political philosophy where the reason you have a computer to type your posts is because every component and part is made in various third world economies that operate in a global market place. The free movement of goods, services and "labour" is the cornerstone of neo-liberal philosophy. Brexit was a knee jerk reaction from a section of the British population who thought they keep good o'l "fortress Britain" going - keep out the "darkies" while enjoying the fruits of third world slaves in their sweatshops far far away. I'm afraid you can't (metaphorically speaking) have your cake and eat it....If Britain closed it's doors it would be a third world backwater
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The "sins of the father argument" was tried here in Australia to justify genocide of the original inhabitants and (mostly) to avoid financial reparations in the same way the Germans and Japanese squirmed after accusations of genocide and profiteering off civilians after WWII. The British crown originally accepted Captain James Cook's claim that Australia was "terra nullius" which in latin literally mean't devoid of humans. The legacy was aboriginal Australians were under the jurisdiction of the same government department that looked after "flora and fauna" till 1967. The wealth we Australians (like the Brits and Americans) enjoy was harnessed from the blood of innocent slaves and murdered natives. Lets not forget the money from slave picked Virginia tobacco went into the coffers of the British crown prior to 1776. Gold from piracy, cheap labour in Asia sending spices, textiles and metals and bullion from selling opium to China also bought wealth into Britain. It may be somebody else who did the raping and pillaging but you are I are living of the proceeds of crime. At least I acknowledge what my ancestors did.
You have a naive view of the world. Mass immigration is a product of lassaiz faire neo-liberal political philosophy where the reason you have a computer to type your posts is because every component and part is made in various third world economies that operate in a global market place. The free movement of goods, services and "labour" is the cornerstone of neo-liberal philosophy. Brexit was a knee jerk reaction from a section of the British population who thought they keep good o'l "fortress Britain" going - keep out the "darkies" while enjoying the fruits of third world slaves in their sweatshops far far away. I'm afraid you can't (metaphorically speaking) have your cake and eat it....If Britain closed it's doors it would be a third world backwater
Eloquently and honestly put. A lot of people exist in a state of denial that is as dangerous for the world as it is for them.
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Britan has a long history of dividing, conquering, and stabbing other countries in the back in order to obtain recources, power, and control.
If that is not racist, it is something worse.
I think you're speaking about one Nation and its not England, is it?.. Sturgeon didn't do much besides having her work cut out with dividing British opinion over the polls.
England, Great Britan, United Kingdom.
Personally, with the exception of the people who want absolutely nothing to do with Great Britans occupation, like for instance people in Northern Ireland, or just Ireland in general, I don't see the difference. English is British. It's full of Britts.
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Britan has a long history of dividing, conquering, and stabbing other countries in the back in order to obtain recources, power, and control.
If that is not racist, it is something worse.
Cause America doesn't do that?
And he says it in the very week that America's murdering dictator friend Karimov dies.
They have had/have quite a few of them?
Is this more British humor? The UK has been massaging Uzbekistan for a long time now. What's with the switch? It's raining right?
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Britan has a long history of dividing, conquering, and stabbing other countries in the back in order to obtain recources, power, and control.
If that is not racist, it is something worse.
Cause America doesn't do that?
How can I possibly say no?
There is no way any country on the face of the planet has done as many horrible things as the british in the last 500 years. Most of it was a complete act of supremacy.
Then the US learned very well from US. The US has pretty much been at war since it was formed.
Yes. Cleaning up messes is a difficult thing to do. Like getting the british out of the country. Like getting the british to stop helping the south, when the north wanted to abolish slavery. Like cleaning up that mess when we bought the other half of the country from the british for the price of a large bag of unsalted peanuts. Like helping to end world war one because people over there have a problem getting along. I lost 2 great great uncles in that war. Ooh, and don't forget ww2. Apparently, the British seemed to have alot of rules, allowed some treaty? and threatened the Germans for floating a boat, and well... The Germans sank your battleship. So the British declared war on a country that would have won if it was not for other countries to step up. Four of my great uncles died in that war. My grandfather had a horrible case of PTSD. He was one of the first to land on Normandy. Two of his brothers made it through that war too. Than there is the korean war... Something about the british occupation of South Korea comes to mind. I cannot rightly say what the heck was going on over there. Some dictatorship bla bla bla something or another. Then there was Vietnam. Something about the British occupation of South Vietnam, and some freedom of communism mambo jambo comes to mind. Some strange conspiracy, or misrepresentation of money, or something or another inticed the wrong people to con people into getting our hands wet in that one. That was stupid. I know a few people that got back from that one. It was like a bad acid trip over there. Than there is Iraq, and Afganistan. It is no big secret what the British did over there before we ever showed up. I'm sure I'm missing alot, but you go ahead. Tell me all about it.
I know I'm being a little harsh but the "us and them" attitude held firmly by the Brits (and probably everyone else) is not benefiting Homo sapiens at a global level. Mr Powell is equating mass migration with lower standards of living and loss of "national" identity but the transition to a global borderless society will eventually happen and we may as well all get used to it.
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I know I'm being a little harsh but the "us and them" attitude held firmly by the Brits (and probably everyone else) is not benefiting Homo sapiens at a global level. Mr Powell is equating mass migration with lower standards of living and loss of "national" identity but the transition to a global borderless society will eventually happen and we may as well all get used to it.
You're not being harsh at all. You're seeing things as they are. The 'us and them' attitude, in the form of everything from petty-minded nationalism to outright racial hatred is on the rise throughout Europe and the USA, in fact in much of the world. It hasn't been seen on this scale since the 1920s and 30s.
The "sins of the father argument" was tried here in Australia to justify genocide of the original inhabitants and (mostly) to avoid financial reparations in the same way the Germans and Japanese squirmed after accusations of genocide and profiteering off civilians after WWII. The British crown originally accepted Captain James Cook's claim that Australia was "terra nullius" which in latin literally mean't devoid of humans. The legacy was aboriginal Australians were under the jurisdiction of the same government department that looked after "flora and fauna" till 1967. The wealth we Australians (like the Brits and Americans) enjoy was harnessed from the blood of innocent slaves and murdered natives. Lets not forget the money from slave picked Virginia tobacco went into the coffers of the British crown prior to 1776. Gold from piracy, cheap labour in Asia sending spices, textiles and metals and bullion from selling opium to China also bought wealth into Britain. It may be somebody else who did the raping and pillaging but you are I are living of the proceeds of crime. At least I acknowledge what my ancestors did.
You have a naive view of the world. Mass immigration is a product of lassaiz faire neo-liberal political philosophy where the reason you have a computer to type your posts is because every component and part is made in various third world economies that operate in a global market place. The free movement of goods, services and "labour" is the cornerstone of neo-liberal philosophy. Brexit was a knee jerk reaction from a section of the British population who thought they keep good o'l "fortress Britain" going - keep out the "darkies" while enjoying the fruits of third world slaves in their sweatshops far far away. I'm afraid you can't (metaphorically speaking) have your cake and eat it....If Britain closed it's doors it would be a third world backwater
Then our punishment was WWI and WWII. We didn't ask to go to war, for the same kind of crooks who committed those crimes and the same kind now that are globalising the world, in the sickest evil of all, and there are people here cheering for it. I acknowledge what someone else's ancestors did, I just don't want the British people punished for it. Should Africans be continuously punished for selling their own people? Which is far worse.
You don't need to to be flooded with millions of people across the world because we are in a global market. I'd much rather we produce our own goods and pay more or not have a computer at all. Australia and Israel have a trade deal with the EU. Australia has a points based system and Israel has a Jews only based system. Strange how Jews aren't punished for their role in the slave trade... You may want to educate yourself. Most of the people who voted to leave would have waited 40 years to do so, since they were tricked into the EU to begin with. The polar opposite of a "knee jerk" reaction. Most of the anger regarding immigrants is directed at Eastern Europeans, so hardly "darkies". We have our doors open and we are £1.6 trillion in debt. The only people mass immigration is benefiting is the rich and powerful, your heroes.
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Britan has a long history of dividing, conquering, and stabbing other countries in the back in order to obtain recources, power, and control.
If that is not racist, it is something worse.
Cause America doesn't do that?
How can I possibly say no?
There is no way any country on the face of the planet has done as many horrible things as the british in the last 500 years. Most of it was a complete act of supremacy.
Then the US learned very well from US. The US has pretty much been at war since it was formed.
Yes. Cleaning up messes is a difficult thing to do. Like getting the british out of the country. Like getting the british to stop helping the south, when the north wanted to abolish slavery. Like cleaning up that mess when we bought the other half of the country from the british for the price of a large bag of unsalted peanuts. Like helping to end world war one because people over there have a problem getting along. I lost 2 great great uncles in that war. Ooh, and don't forget ww2. Apparently, the British seemed to have alot of rules, allowed some treaty? and threatened the Germans for floating a boat, and well... The Germans sank your battleship. So the British declared war on a country that would have won if it was not for other countries to step up. Four of my great uncles died in that war. My grandfather had a horrible case of PTSD. He was one of the first to land on Normandy. Two of his brothers made it through that war too. Than there is the korean war... Something about the british occupation of South Korea comes to mind. I cannot rightly say what the heck was going on over there. Some dictatorship bla bla bla something or another. Then there was Vietnam. Something about the British occupation of South Vietnam, and some freedom of communism mambo jambo comes to mind. Some strange conspiracy, or misrepresentation of money, or something or another inticed the wrong people to con people into getting our hands wet in that one. That was stupid. I know a few people that got back from that one. It was like a bad acid trip over there. Than there is Iraq, and Afganistan. It is no big secret what the British did over there before we ever showed up. I'm sure I'm missing alot, but you go ahead. Tell me all about it.
So when the US backed government in Indonesia wiped out 1/3 of the population in East Timor, that was the Brits fault too? Starving people in Cuba? Causing civil wars across the globe, all our fault?
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