Is Barron Trump Autistic? #StopTheBullying
I think the pivotal point of if Trump is the obviously loving parent of a child, who might be autistic, what effect does that have on how Trump is out to destroy the lives of people with autism? That was the real question and point of the original post.
"Trump hates us and will take everything away from us and put us in concentration camps!"
"Um could be Trump's little boy is autistic"
"Really? Well uh in that case uh um er uh, I'll get back to you on that"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxOmAXmZpN0&t=12s
It's probably going to be re posted by different users and Mrs. Trump will mind as well go after these people too.
That's one way to build a wall!
"Trump hates us and will take everything away from us and put us in concentration camps!"
"Um could be Trump's little boy is autistic"
"Really? Well uh in that case uh um er uh, I'll get back to you on that"
Their response to the idea that he might be doesn't seem to suggest a very cordial attitude towards autism. It shouldn't be taken as any more of an "insult" than if the video was called, "Is Barron Trump Left-handed?".
Lot of parents don't like it when someone suggests that could be wrong with their child. Now if they knew their kid had something and they were looking for answers, that would be a different story. I don't think Melenia was looking for answers if she thinks her boy is normal.
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Rosie O’Donnell Apologizes To Melania Trump For Barron Trump “Autism” Video
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Can add "disliking people with disabilities" to the long list of prejudices the pro-Trump people have....
Wouldn't that actually add to the prejudices against "pro-Trump people" aka the Deplorables? What should be done with those people?
Americans are individualistic. This is not unique, most western European based cultures (including Australia) value individualism. However, as a foreigner looking from the outside the US seems to have nurtured the value of "rugged individualism" and combined with early in the 20th century with neo-liberalism or corporate culture. This type of culture values the "Gordon Gecko" business types as natural leaders of the free market. What you have now is Gordon Gecko (AKA Donald Trump or George Soros or Rupert Murdoch) not only manipulating things behind the scenes but actually getting elected now.
Conservative Americans talk about being the carriers of "moral values" but have no problem with their leadership lacking moral character provided they are rich and powerful and represent corporate America. Let's just pick one example (there is plenty) This explains why 62% of white American women and (amazingly) half of all white female university graduates supported Donald Trump. Initially this doesn't make sense why a man who clearly objectifies women as sexual playthings has so much support among female voters? respect and admiration for power overrides common morality. I suppose this explains why the majority of educated and "enlightened" Germans actively supported the Nazi party in the early 1930s. History repeating itself? we shall see I guess...
Here in a video on youtube ("Melania Trump - The Woman Behind Donald") that argues at minute 3:23 under the section "Nanny or not?", that the Trumps lied: In a September 2015 interview with People s magazine, Melania and Donald insisted they did not use a nanny to help raise Barron. ... Days after the interview was published, Donald told the New York Post that there was actually "a young woman" who "works with Barron".
What if Barron s parents didnt lie and the person who "works with Barron" is not a nanny? "Works with Barron" does in any case sound most like a therapist and definitely not like a nanny. Could be a tutor, too, but "works with Barron" without any specification like "on his school stuff" would still be a not so common use.
Btw, what exactly does Melania Trump want to sue the video poster for: for saying that Barron is autistic, or for pointing to his special behaviors and therefore for bullying him? And as the video poster is definitely NOT bullying anybody (nor did Rosie imo), but actually defending Barron against bullying, does she not get it, because she is herself on the spectrum? After all many parents are, and Melania is acting pretty stiffly for someone who has gone international since the age of 18, and seems to have embraced it.
It was also claimed by another video "Barron Trump, the next boy living in the White House" that "Melania helps her son with his homework" @ 1:41. If correct, that suggests that she's assumed a tutor role. But, that doesn't discount the idea of having a specialized tutor on-hand when the Trumps have other engagements. If the person who "works with Barron" is a therapist, then a therapist for what? It's not clear what the need would be for that role.
Well, the video was only an an attempt at a potential explanation for Barron's observed traits (which others had previously mocked him for) while attempting to advocate for understanding and respect for him in either case.
Rosie wasn't entirely cordial (she did call Donald a "madman" in her tweet), but said nothing negative about Barron.
It bothers me that either Barron does not have autism and Melania assumes "autism" is some sort of insult/character assault, or he does and her reaction is instant level-11 over-protective mother mode. Neither one is healthy.
Autistic or not, all these strangers watching his every move has got to be stressful. I don't want to tell people what to do, but I think it would be a good idea for the media to leave him alone. His father may have done some things worth criticizing, but as far as I know Barron is just a kid who does kid things.
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ABA therapy, maybe?
Yeah, I totally agree. It seems strange to me that she would react so FIERCELY if he DIDN'T have it----she coulda just said: "Noooo, he's just very curious about everything, and is always looking-around", or something like that, for instance.
I'm thinking the reason she acted the way she did, was because that original video on here, "outed" him----but, SURELY, his school, for instance, knows (if he IS autistic); it's not like he's going to a special school for Autistics; and, if people are bullying him (one of the reasons I, like others have said on here, feel Melania is making Cyber Bullying her project, for First Lady), THEY already know there's something "different" about him----so, like somebody else said, if you just 'fess-up, everybody'll stop talkin'-about it.
Everybody with a secret, seems to always think they are MASTERS at hiding it----too bad they don't understand "can't see the forest, for the trees"; meaning, people on the OUTside, can almost ALWAYS read others, better than they can read themselves; so, when people hide something, others WILL find it----ESPECIALLY, if they're in the public eye.
In-the-end, I'm thinking that he'll be "all-around" just like his father----autistic AND a narcissist----cuz, like you seemed to be saying, her coddling him is NOT gonna turn-out, well (coddling often creates narcissists, IMO).
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Whatever the case, it's pretty rare for a person in her position in society to provide extensive hands on mothering. But as far as keeping a secret, the fact that Barron attends school, means they're not keeping him hidden away from being discovered.
I also found him rather fascinating at the election night speech, but at the time I just thought, wow, that kid is being kept up way past his bedtime. He seemed to be struggling to stay awake.
I did later see the video in question, and even later the fact that O'Donnell had tweeted it or something, but I found her apology a good explanation why she remarked on it.
I don't see that there's even near enough evidence for the public to determine whether he's autistic or not, and it doesn't matter to me unless he is and his parents handle it wisely enough to make it simply a normalizing of autism, which would be a good thing. If there's a fuss being made by others I haven't seen it - and I watch a LOT of liberal news feeds and forums, just not seeing the abusiveness people are complaining about, in fact I haven't really seen it mentioned much at all. So I don't know where that accusation is coming from. It seems to me the people that have made the biggest fuss are his parents.
It's not right to drag any president's family out to be berated or made fun of. Yet it happens with nearly every president. I hated that Bill Clinton's affairs were dragged all over the news. I felt awful for his wife and daughter at the time. I also have sympathy for any woman who is sexually harassed, btw, and he had an affair with an employee, which with or without her consent was wrong. But none of that should have been front page news, for his family to have to be mortified by, it just doesn't seem right. Still that is on him, because as president how could it not be news? When you're in that office you have to behave yourself if you don't want undue attention. Obama and his family have shown us how that is done (behaving oneself), IMO.
The presidency is a full on public job, and that includes the family. It comes with the job, always has, otherwise we wouldn't have the title First Lady - we would just say president's spouse and ignore them. It's a known fact that there's very little privacy possible for such a public figure or their family. Surely the Trumps went into this with that knowledge. If Melania is angry with anyone over the attention her son may get, she should be angry with her husband. No one twisted his arm to run for president. I remember early in Obama's first campaign an interview where he mentioned that he realized it would be hard on his family and also mentioned that he had their consent to run. At the time I wasn't yet a fan - I wanted Kucinich - but I admired that. It stood out for me.
IF Barron Trump is autistic, no big deal. But if he is I hope that he can get the privacy he wants or needs as the child of such a public figure, and that if he is and it's made public, the public also handles it well.
If he's not, then no big deal either. I'm just not seeing the bullying. Maybe I read different things online than others do though. I do avoid sites/threads/feeds/forums where such abuse - of anyone - is allowed.
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The Obama children were subject to considerable scrutiny and innuendo, much of which was unnecessarily sensationalist. The boy is 10 and will be 14 when Trump eventually get's thrown out of office. I think he's too young to be of much interest to anyone.
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Change.Org Petition - FIRE Katie Rich from SNL & NBC
On Inauguration Day January 20, 2017, SNL writer Katie Rich posted a picture of President Trump's family on Twitter with a circle drawn around 10 year old Barron Trump and she commented: "Barron will be this country's first homeschool shooter."
Online bullying of children (including and especially those in our White House!) by any adult is unnacceptable behavior and should not be tolerated under any circumstances. If Ms. Rich does not get fired, heftily fined AND issue a written apology to our First Family immediately, NBC should be banned from our White House press room and shunned by our new administration, and SNL should be boycotted into oblivion.
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“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman
On Inauguration Day January 20, 2017, SNL writer Katie Rich posted a picture of President Trump's family on Twitter with a circle drawn around 10 year old Barron Trump and she commented: "Barron will be this country's first homeschool shooter."
Online bullying of children (including and especially those in our White House!) by any adult is unacceptable behavior and should not be tolerated under any circumstances. If Ms. Rich does not get fired, heftily fined AND issue a written apology to our First Family immediately, NBC should be banned from our White House press room and shunned by our new administration, and SNL should be boycotted into oblivion.
Yeah that was going way too far. They probably think they can get away with anything at this point.
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