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09 Mar 2017, 12:45 pm

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came out almost immediately after Trump exposed the wiretapping

Oh, bummer, I can't watch videos, cuz I have limited bandwidth. I googled "Loretta Lynch, wiretapping", and there's a million-and-one articles saying she signed the application for the wiretapping of Donald Trump (not-at-that-time President)----but, assuming she is speaking on the video you posted, could you please post what she said? I really appreciate it.





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09 Mar 2017, 12:58 pm

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Anybody who believes Obama wiretapped Trump is an actual moron.

I believe anybody who believes the possibility of this happening is absurd, is an actual moron.








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09 Mar 2017, 2:45 pm

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Anybody who believes Obama wiretapped Trump is an actual moron.


I'll second that!


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09 Mar 2017, 2:46 pm

Anyone that doesn't believe Trump was wiretapped is a moron. Anyone thatt thinks that Loretta Lynch would of been able to do this without Obama knowing is a moron.
Moderator note: Labelling others condescendingly - eg morons - for not believing what the poster chooses to believe is not a form of debate. It is a form of rudeness, as the people who are reporting it pointed out.

Unless Obama has some compelling evidence that lends credence to this theory of Russian wrongdoing which they have found nothing of the sort, he broke the law and abused his power by targeting his political opponents. Considering what we already know, with the Wikileaks CIA revelations and others who have confirmed this FISA warrant, it not looking too good Barry boy.



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09 Mar 2017, 3:03 pm

Campin_Cat wrote:
AJisHere wrote:
Anybody who believes Obama wiretapped Trump is an actual moron.

I believe anybody who believes the possibility of this happening is absurd, is an actual moron.


I believe anybody who believes this type of thing can not happen is naive. If it did happen it probably did not happen through FISA or other official channels but a Watergate plumbers styled secret small group.


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09 Mar 2017, 3:33 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Campin_Cat wrote:
AJisHere wrote:
Anybody who believes Obama wiretapped Trump is an actual moron.

I believe anybody who believes the possibility of this happening is absurd, is an actual moron.

I believe anybody who believes this type of thing cannot happen is naive. If it did happen it probably did not happen through FISA or other official channels but a Watergate plumbers styled secret small group.

Yes, I totally agree with your first sentence, there.

As for not going-through FISA, I can see that. As for it being a small group, I'm thinking President Obama, Loretta Lynch, and Billary were 4 of the members of that group----and, I wouldn't be a bit surprised, if this happened, the wheels were set-in-motion, during that tarmac discussion about "golf and grandkids".





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09 Mar 2017, 3:57 pm

Trump likely made up the wiretap crap as a diversion or just a way for people to whine over Obama again.

Remember- Trump (as well as his supporters) can't stop talking about the past president Obama, as well as the losing candidate Hillary Clinton. They love to ignore anything that involves THEM and the current White House. Many ethics violations, many conflicts of interest and much more- likely treason as well! How is any of that alright? Let's live in the present- Trump and his corrupt friends need to be investigated more. Unfortunately they wont- because Republicans control congress and are hiding lots of dirt. People can constantly think Trump, his staff and congress are innocent but they certainly aren't! Plenty of facts out there- like how Trump is a chicken that can't release his taxes, and claims "no one wants to see them", when there is plenty of people that deserve to see them. If Trump had nothing to hide- he would've released them. Most people do know he is hiding something and just making excuses because he can. Next election cycle will hopefully see most of these idiots out of office, because they certainly aren't helping many people. These people are gutless and don't even go to town halls much! Or when they do.. they claim it's just paid protesters and not the people that live in the area. :roll: Sorry but this isn't a fantasy- they aren't doing their jobs and are being selfish! These people in congress and in the White House need to grow up and start working for everyone, not just the tiny percent that makes up the rich in the country. Unqualified people like DeVos and Carson shouldn't be in charge of things they know little to nothing about! Pay-to-play corruption at its worst.

Trump and the current staff are likely more corrupt than Clinton and other Democrats all combine. You just don't realize it yet.



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09 Mar 2017, 4:12 pm

AJisHere wrote:
Anybody who believes Obama wiretapped Trump is an actual moron.


Can I say the same about anyone who believes Trump and Putin have a secret collusion?



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09 Mar 2017, 4:38 pm

Well what's the evidence. It seems like Trump is vilifying his opponents so they now find themselves lacking any kind of credibility and decency in the eyes of his supporters.



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09 Mar 2017, 4:50 pm

We already know there was a FISA warrant targeting Trump Tower, they had attempted to get one earlier broadly for Trump and all his associates but were rejected by the FISA court which means they had absolutely zero evidence. Apparently there was another non-FISA warrant as well, the Obama administration is just straight up lying that they didn't spy on Trump. and it will all be exposed in the greatest detail in due time. A real question to ask is, did the CIA under Obama's orders spy on Trump too? Knowing what we know from the latest Wikileaks revelation it seems likely.

There is far far FAR more evidence of Obama abusing his executive authority than any of the half backed and quite frankly stupid Russian conspiracy theories. Yet which is the MSM and the opposition screaming from the rooftops as if it is fact?

Obama is criminal, Hillary is a criminal, Loretta Lynch is a criminal, Eric Holder is a criminal, Valarie Jarrett is a criminal, John Brennen is a criminal, James Clapper is a criminal. Draining a swamp takes time but I cannot wait to see these people locked up.



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09 Mar 2017, 5:15 pm

Trump is an egomaniac, conman, crook and extremely paranoid.

The fact that Trump said he was wiretapped with NO EVIDENCE is extremely stupid. But it's worse how people simply believe anything he says without proof. A good percent of what he says is either a lie or half truth anyway. Fact checkers have shown this- but people think the fact checkers are wrong or simply another enemy of Trump or whatever... :roll:

There was a pie chart of how Trump spent his time in office so far- much of it on personal trips to Florida to his club (which some have called White House south if I remember right), golf and other nonsense! People think he is actually doing good? Ha.. that's such a joke. Oh that's right the pie chart is fake news because it doesn't put Trump in a good light. :lol:

In all seriousness- I wonder how much people have to lose before they realize Trump and the Republicans in charge aren't stable to help?



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09 Mar 2017, 5:21 pm

You've been copying and pasting the same old tired pout for months now, forgot to mention his tax returns this time tho but you mentioned some new irrelevancies! How fun! :lol:

There is lots of evidence, far more than any of the garbage you repeat as gospel truth about Trump. Just because CNN is plugging their ears and covering their eyes doesn't mean there isn't any, there was all this bragging pretty openly about this investigation into Trump's connections with the Russians which they found absolutely zero so to deny it now is really thinking people are too stupid to put two and two together.

Have you considered for a second that the Democrats are corrupt as s**t? None of this should surprise anyone.



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09 Mar 2017, 5:26 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Campin_Cat wrote:
AJisHere wrote:
Anybody who believes Obama wiretapped Trump is an actual moron.

I believe anybody who believes the possibility of this happening is absurd, is an actual moron.


I believe anybody who believes this type of thing can not happen is naive. If it did happen it probably did not happen through FISA or other official channels but a Watergate plumbers styled secret small group.


Well yes of course. But the most alarming thing is that if these kind of accusations were about Trump and/or Putin they would believe it without question and without evidence of course. These type of people really help make politics the sham it is.


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09 Mar 2017, 5:41 pm

Jacoby wrote:
There is lots of evidence, far more than any of the garbage you repeat as gospel truth about Trump.

There is no evidence. If there was they would say.



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09 Mar 2017, 5:47 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
There is lots of evidence, far more than any of the garbage you repeat as gospel truth about Trump.

There is no evidence. If there was they would say.


They have said, it's been confirmed by multiple officials. It's just lawyer talk now about who ordered it, the buck doesn't stop with Obama ever.



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09 Mar 2017, 5:51 pm

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1. Still no evidence of a wiretap

2. The president doesn't have the ability to order wiretaps

^This


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