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17 Oct 2019, 8:00 pm

Ever heard the song "Harper Valley PTA"?



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17 Oct 2019, 8:18 pm

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Ever heard the song "Harper Valley PTA"?

Nope? Is it a good song? :dj:



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17 Oct 2019, 8:36 pm

It's sort of a "Southern soap opera."

I liked it since I was 7 years old.



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17 Oct 2019, 8:41 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
It's sort of a "Southern soap opera."

I liked it since I was 7 years old.

Sounds interesting. :)

My mom used to like a show called "In The Heat of The Night". Ever watch it?



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17 Oct 2019, 8:44 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
It's sort of a "Southern soap opera."

I liked it since I was 7 years old.

Sounds interesting. :)

My mom used to like a show called "In The Heat of The Night". Ever watch it?


I've never seen the show but I really liked the movie.



One thing I don't understand though. Why was Tibbs vising his mother between midnight and 4 am? And why was the chief of police in his office at 4 am? Just seems like a peculiar time frame.



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17 Oct 2019, 9:06 pm

EzraS wrote:
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kraftiekortie wrote:
It's sort of a "Southern soap opera."

I liked it since I was 7 years old.

Sounds interesting. :)

My mom used to like a show called "In The Heat of The Night". Ever watch it?


I've never seen the show but I really liked the movie.



One thing I don't understand though. Why was Tibbs vising his mother between midnight and 4 am? And why was the chief of police in his office at 4 am? Just seems like a peculiar time frame.



I dont think I ever saw the movie, I watched like one or two episodes of the show with my mom back when it vane on TV. My mom really liked the show.



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18 Oct 2019, 7:17 am

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Name some things about human nature don't suck?



It will get to the good part. Be patient.



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18 Oct 2019, 7:28 am

Yep. With Archie Bunker as the Chief.

Heat of the Night was a good show.

Listen to the PTA song from 1968



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18 Oct 2019, 3:06 pm

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Would you feel the same if they had a bonfire of Mein Kampf?

While there would be emotional satisfaction I am staunchly opposed to erasing history.



I agree, it's the same with the statues. It's an ugly part of our history, but it's true.

What upsets me is when a group of individuals latch on to a moment in time and act as though it's THE moment in time. The only moment in time. When the world has been full of Hitlers from the start, the only change was the ability to get the news out worldwide. Because they have a visual, they ignore all other history documenting the same exact thing happening elsewhere in history. When you do that, you get examples like this. People are so sick of having their own history glossed over, in favor of awfulizing another's in comparison.

Them: "oh, nobody had it as bad as X!"
Me: "oh yeah, tell that to X!"

Until we find a "dark night of the soul" we can all bond over, that's common to everyone, we're just spinning the wheels of history. And taking sides...


Main difference was industrialization. In pst whole cities and whole civilizations were wiped out. Thousands and possible millions who knows as they gone and most evidence of them also wiped out.
Genocide isn’t a 19th century invention it was just made more efficient. I’d think past rules would have killed just as many if they’d had the same technology, they had to do with blades weapons, arrows and fire. Nazis found shooting people to be inefficient, imagine blades weapons only. So genocide wasn’t new just genocide on that scale and speed.
A Hitler today could just nuke whole cities such a genocide would be way more today then in ww2. I serious worry one day we’ll find out North Korea has killed millions of people.the technology available today is far more advanced then what the nazis has in 1943.[/quote]


Do you count the Native American and South American genocides to? How they wiped out other tribes, conducted sacrifices, etc... They were killing each other long before the white man came along. Doesn't negate responsibility, but it's true. We always say something and such was so much better before 'white man' came. But, was it really? I think it was just brown on brown killings, wiping out, slaughter, wars, stolen lands, etc...


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18 Oct 2019, 3:10 pm

Genocide is genocide. Of course they count. Especially if the expressed intent was to "get rid of" all of a certain ethnic group.



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18 Oct 2019, 7:22 pm

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Genocide is genocide. Of course they count. Especially if the expressed intent was to "get rid of" all of a certain ethnic group.

There was whoLe native nations that got wiped out. Such is total war. You kill them all and take their land. Genocide was the norm for most human history, they just didn’t have the technology to do it on a mass scale.


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18 Oct 2019, 7:26 pm

The Romans and Persians certainly did lots of conquering----but though there were some massacres committed amongst them---most of the time, they did not put the population of a city or region they conquered "to the sword."

Rather, they made that city or region part of their empire----and took advantage of those cities in other ways. Especially materially.

It wasn't pure plunder, even though they also took slaves.



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18 Oct 2019, 9:37 pm

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The Romans and Persians certainly did lots of conquering----but though there were some massacres committed amongst them---most of the time, they did not put the population of a city or region they conquered "to the sword."
Rather, they made that city or region part of their empire----and took advantage of those cities in other ways. Especially materially.
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That might apply to the Persians but certainly not the Romans. The Romans are the first known empire to commit genocide when they wiped Carthage of the map. The Romans used a form of "Blitzkrieg" and are known to have wiped out numerous tribes of the map. Most famously after Boudicca's rebellion in Britain the Romans wiped the entire Iceni tribe and indeed by the time the Anglo-Saxons arrived following the Roman's retreat around 400AD the dominant Brythonic language/culture was largely extinct in Britain. The Saxons had an easy time as the Romans had done all the hard work for them.

The Roman use of genocide was so effective in intimidating and subjugating rebellions that I am almost certain the techniques they used were adopted by future European empires.



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18 Oct 2019, 9:50 pm

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I have never said all conservatives are white nationalists and racists, though every white racist seems to belong to the far right. It's those people who need to have their hearts and minds changed."


Most hardcore republicans have conservative values and while they may not openly support the far right lets not kid ourselves that their preference is to keep their schools and neighbourhoods white. A survey conducted as recently as 1990 found 80% of real estate was exclusively all-white communities. Why don't these conservative white folk want to live next door to non-whites? or share their schools with non-whites? How is this different from Apartheid south Africa?
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/welc ... tegration/

An important question is why do so many of these republican voting white Americans feel more angry at civil rights groups wanting racial equality, or angry at Obama yet seem to tolerate the far right who they pretend to not notice are rank and file members of the republican party?



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18 Oct 2019, 10:27 pm

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I have never said all conservatives are white nationalists and racists, though every white racist seems to belong to the far right. It's those people who need to have their hearts and minds changed."


Most hardcore republicans have conservative values and while they may not openly support the far right lets not kid ourselves that their preference is to keep their schools and neighbourhoods white. A survey conducted as recently as 1990 found 80% of real estate was exclusively all-white communities. Why don't these conservative white folk want to live next door to non-whites? or share their schools with non-whites? How is this different from Apartheid south Africa?
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/welc ... tegration/

An important question is why do so many of these republican voting white Americans feel more angry at civil rights groups wanting racial equality, or angry at Obama yet seem to tolerate the far right who they pretend to not notice are rank and file members of the republican party?


Call me a fool, :lol:, but I haven'g totally given up on my fellow Americans, or my fellow man.


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19 Oct 2019, 12:50 am

cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I have never said all conservatives are white nationalists and racists, though every white racist seems to belong to the far right. It's those people who need to have their hearts and minds changed."


Most hardcore republicans have conservative values and while they may not openly support the far right lets not kid ourselves that their preference is to keep their schools and neighbourhoods white. A survey conducted as recently as 1990 found 80% of real estate was exclusively all-white communities. Why don't these conservative white folk want to live next door to non-whites? or share their schools with non-whites? How is this different from Apartheid south Africa?
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/welc ... tegration/

An important question is why do so many of these republican voting white Americans feel more angry at civil rights groups wanting racial equality, or angry at Obama yet seem to tolerate the far right who they pretend to not notice are rank and file members of the republican party?



I'm sorry, but explain to me how having an all white neighborhood is a conservative value? 1990 was a long time ago, almost 30 years. I live a stones throw from a young Hispanic couple and another stones throw from a gay couple, the home we now own was bought from a Hispanic family. The school my granddaughter goes to is equally represented by all races.

I'll tell you what I do expect for my money... a safe neighborhood. If I wanted to be robbed, or have music blasting all night long, I'd move into student housing at the University. Does that constitute hard core conservatism or old age? You make the most absurdly absolute statements of anyone on this page. MOST hardcore conservatives want all white neighbors... it's BS. I want all SAFE neighborhood, and I don't care who I live near to accomplish that. If you put two families in front of me and one is a black, law abiding family and the other is a white hooligan, I'll pick the blacks for a neighbor.


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