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Rosenbaum never physically touches Rittenhouse.
Rosenbaum is shot and falls down.
Then Rittenhouse pumps three more shots into Rosenbaum, even shooting him in his back.
That seems like clear murder.
Any links I can read of someone explaining how that's not murder?
Person running away from Rosenbaum.
Rosenbaum chases him, making Rosenbaum the "agressor".
Rosenbaum throws object at person running from him.
Rosenbaum lunges at him, trying to grab rifle (from witness description included in charging documents, linked in earlier replies).
Rosenbaum was shot at that time.
At no point was the person who shot Rosenbaum acting in an agressive way towards him, and was in fact trying to get away from him. In this case, legally, Rosenbaum would be classed as the "agressor" and so "self defence" becomes a legitimate legal defence that can be invoked.
Rosenbaum never physically touches Rittenhouse.
Rosenbaum is shot and falls down.
Then Rittenhouse pumps three more shots into Rosenbaum, even shooting him in his back.
That seems like clear murder.
Any links I can read of someone explaining how that's not murder?
Person running away from Rosenbaum.
Rosenbaum chases him, making Rosenbaum the "agressor".
Rosenbaum throws object at person running from him.
Rosenbaum lunges at him, trying to grab rifle (from witness description included in charging documents, linked in earlier replies).
Rosenbaum was shot at that time.
At no point was the person who shot Rosenbaum acting in an agressive way towards him, and was in fact trying to get away from him. In this case, legally, Rosenbaum would be classed as the "agressor" and so "self defence" becomes a legitimate legal defence that can be invoked.
1. Rosenbaum was the aggressor. Likely he was taunting people like he did earlier on video.
2. The bag fell way short of anyone, so that seems irrelevant.
It appears to be a gray area whether you can shoot someone who is trying to take your gun ...
https://www.quora.com/If-you-have-a-per ... shoot-them
However, the tough question is those extra shots he put into Rosenbaum.
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Nick Sandmann - got it wrong
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McMichael Brothers - Got that one correct
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Cop vs Samuel DuBose (I took cop, LOST)
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Derek Chauvin (I took George Floyd, ongoing)
Rittenhouse (I take GUILTY of murder)
How could you participated in a Michael Brown discussion,that was the Darren Wilson shooting in Ferguson MO,that was 2014,you joined in 2019,Terence Crutcher was 2016 I think.How could you have been around for that?
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Rittenhouse (I take GUILTY of murder)
How could you participated in a Michael Brown discussion,that was the Darren Wilson shooting in Ferguson MO,that was 2014,you joined in 2019,Terence Crutcher was 2016 I think.How could you have been around for that?
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These lawyers never address the most obvious argument of murder -- that Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum in his back.
Also, Barnes appears incorrect to say Rosenbaum touched Rittenhouse's gun.
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These lawyers never address the most obvious argument of murder -- that Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum in his back.
An unarmed man has his back to you, and you need to shoot for self-defense. Doesn't make sense.
Also, Barnes appears incorrect to say Rosenbaum touched Rittenhouse's gun.
Based on the charging documents (again, provided in an earlier post) Rosenbaum was lunging for Kyle and his gun when shot. There is no indication of him being intentionally shot in the back (running away from Kyle, for example), and a witness indicated he definitely made a motion as though trying to grab the barrel of the gun, and the shot that hit his back would likely be due to his movement when the shots were fired. The 3 or 4 shots fired were close together, and it is likely that Rosenbaum was turning during this time, causing one of the shots to hit him in the back...Alternatively (I'm not sure of the angle), it may have hit him while diving towards Kyle, when he was below the height of the end of the barrel.
Again, it's not a case that Rosenbaum had deliberately turned his back and was walking away, as you appear to be assuming, which can be confirmed in the videos of the incident and the charging documents with included witness's observations.
To assist you, have a look at the charging documents:
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/journaltimes.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/6f/46ff33b7-0bd7-55e6-8f2f-9ded0582862f/5f4933274cde9.pdf.pdf
The "Probable cause" section, starting at bottom of page 2, contains all the details the prosecution has been able to gather to support the charges.
If Rittenhouse goes to prison for murder, and Trump is still in office, chances are he'll pardon the young man. Of course, the president can only pardon someone if their act was a federal offense and murders are usually state offenses. I'll bet Rittenhouse's attorneys might finagle a way to make his crimes come across as offenses against the US if Trump is still in power because they know the president will pardon the young man if he gets convicted.
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Trump and supporters are backing the teen despite the charges.
Rittenhouse has been allowed by police to send messages to the media thanking his supporters and bragging he is confident he will be released soon
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... e964391875
I'm not aware other murderers are given this much publicity by a standing president?? or allowed access to the media? quite bizarre times we live in.
Illegally transporting a weapon across state lines (18 U.S. Code § 922) might provide the basis for Federal prosecution of Kyle Rittenhouse…
But as he is under 18, the possible penalty here is much, much lower than the potential sentence for murder at the State level (which is not subject to presidential pardon).
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