25 Sep 2020, 9:29 am
25 Sep 2020, 9:35 am
emotrtkey wrote:
We need to pass laws that clearly make it a felony to deliberately lie and deceive Americans to encourage racism and rioting. Those in charge of the media who publish propaganda stories that fuel racism by encouraging violence and rioting against America and America citizens should to be charged with domestic terrorism and given long prison sentences.
Are you just calling for jailing all the journalists presenting points of view other than the government's?
25 Sep 2020, 2:55 pm
magz wrote:
emotrtkey wrote:
We need to pass laws that clearly make it a felony to deliberately lie and deceive Americans to encourage racism and rioting. Those in charge of the media who publish propaganda stories that fuel racism by encouraging violence and rioting against America and America citizens should to be charged with domestic terrorism and given long prison sentences.
Are you just calling for jailing all the journalists presenting points of view other than the government's?
No. I'm calling for jailing anyone who spreads propaganda to incite racial violence.
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25 Sep 2020, 3:46 pm
emotrtkey wrote:
magz wrote:
emotrtkey wrote:
We need to pass laws that clearly make it a felony to deliberately lie and deceive Americans to encourage racism and rioting. Those in charge of the media who publish propaganda stories that fuel racism by encouraging violence and rioting against America and America citizens should to be charged with domestic terrorism and given long prison sentences.
Are you just calling for jailing all the journalists presenting points of view other than the government's?
No. I'm calling for jailing anyone who spreads propaganda to incite racial violence.
That would nearly eliminate alt-right media in one fell swoop. I never thought you'd pivot from the totalitarian right to the totalitarian left so quickly.
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25 Sep 2020, 6:34 pm
emotrtkey wrote:
magz wrote:
emotrtkey wrote:
We need to pass laws that clearly make it a felony to deliberately lie and deceive Americans to encourage racism and rioting. Those in charge of the media who publish propaganda stories that fuel racism by encouraging violence and rioting against America and America citizens should to be charged with domestic terrorism and given long prison sentences.
Are you just calling for jailing all the journalists presenting points of view other than the government's?
No. I'm calling for jailing anyone who spreads propaganda to incite racial violence.
Does the First Amendment Protect Hate Speech?
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There’s no exception for hate speech under the First Amendment’s protection for freedom of expression, unless the speech is direct, personal, and either truly threatening or violently provocative.
Courts have regularly struck down speech codes at public colleges and universities that barred racist or discriminatory comments.
The First Amendment doesn’t give people the right to make direct, personal threats of immediate violence. This can include intimidating symbolic actions like burning a cross that are meant to make specific victims fear for their lives, even if the cross-burners don’t actually plan to carry through with the threat (Virginia v. Black, 538 U.S. 343 (2003).)
Courts have regularly struck down speech codes at public colleges and universities that barred racist or discriminatory comments.
The First Amendment doesn’t give people the right to make direct, personal threats of immediate violence. This can include intimidating symbolic actions like burning a cross that are meant to make specific victims fear for their lives, even if the cross-burners don’t actually plan to carry through with the threat (Virginia v. Black, 538 U.S. 343 (2003).)
Propaganda is not an immediate threat nor is it direct and personal thus it is protected speech.
25 Sep 2020, 9:27 pm
ASPartOfMe wrote:
emotrtkey wrote:
magz wrote:
emotrtkey wrote:
We need to pass laws that clearly make it a felony to deliberately lie and deceive Americans to encourage racism and rioting. Those in charge of the media who publish propaganda stories that fuel racism by encouraging violence and rioting against America and America citizens should to be charged with domestic terrorism and given long prison sentences.
Are you just calling for jailing all the journalists presenting points of view other than the government's?
No. I'm calling for jailing anyone who spreads propaganda to incite racial violence.
Does the First Amendment Protect Hate Speech?
Quote:
There’s no exception for hate speech under the First Amendment’s protection for freedom of expression, unless the speech is direct, personal, and either truly threatening or violently provocative.
Courts have regularly struck down speech codes at public colleges and universities that barred racist or discriminatory comments.
The First Amendment doesn’t give people the right to make direct, personal threats of immediate violence. This can include intimidating symbolic actions like burning a cross that are meant to make specific victims fear for their lives, even if the cross-burners don’t actually plan to carry through with the threat (Virginia v. Black, 538 U.S. 343 (2003).)
Courts have regularly struck down speech codes at public colleges and universities that barred racist or discriminatory comments.
The First Amendment doesn’t give people the right to make direct, personal threats of immediate violence. This can include intimidating symbolic actions like burning a cross that are meant to make specific victims fear for their lives, even if the cross-burners don’t actually plan to carry through with the threat (Virginia v. Black, 538 U.S. 343 (2003).)
Propaganda is not an immediate threat nor is it direct and personal thus it is protected speech.
The rioting that started after the media deceived people with propaganda to convince people of "systemic racism" (a made up problem that doesn't exist) was clearly violently provocative so it's not protected free speech.
25 Sep 2020, 9:34 pm
Your tendency to believe that different people's problems are made up is pretty much the root of the problem you're saying doesn't exist.
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25 Sep 2020, 10:10 pm
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26 Sep 2020, 4:54 am
emotrtkey wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
emotrtkey wrote:
magz wrote:
emotrtkey wrote:
We need to pass laws that clearly make it a felony to deliberately lie and deceive Americans to encourage racism and rioting. Those in charge of the media who publish propaganda stories that fuel racism by encouraging violence and rioting against America and America citizens should to be charged with domestic terrorism and given long prison sentences.
Are you just calling for jailing all the journalists presenting points of view other than the government's?
No. I'm calling for jailing anyone who spreads propaganda to incite racial violence.
Does the First Amendment Protect Hate Speech?
Quote:
There’s no exception for hate speech under the First Amendment’s protection for freedom of expression, unless the speech is direct, personal, and either truly threatening or violently provocative.
Courts have regularly struck down speech codes at public colleges and universities that barred racist or discriminatory comments.
The First Amendment doesn’t give people the right to make direct, personal threats of immediate violence. This can include intimidating symbolic actions like burning a cross that are meant to make specific victims fear for their lives, even if the cross-burners don’t actually plan to carry through with the threat (Virginia v. Black, 538 U.S. 343 (2003).)
Courts have regularly struck down speech codes at public colleges and universities that barred racist or discriminatory comments.
The First Amendment doesn’t give people the right to make direct, personal threats of immediate violence. This can include intimidating symbolic actions like burning a cross that are meant to make specific victims fear for their lives, even if the cross-burners don’t actually plan to carry through with the threat (Virginia v. Black, 538 U.S. 343 (2003).)
Propaganda is not an immediate threat nor is it direct and personal thus it is protected speech.
The rioting that started after the media deceived people with propaganda to convince people of "systemic racism" (a made up problem that doesn't exist) was clearly violently provocative so it's not protected free speech.
The media saying "Systematic Racism" is a thing that is considered opinion and the press pushing it is considered freedom of the press. Assuming the media pushing "systematic racism" directly caused the riots they were not an immediate cause. The media sensationalizing things, stirring up things for profit has been going on since the beginning of the republic. In order to get your proposed law passed the first amendment would have to be repealed. That takes two-thirds of the House, two-thirds of the Senate, and two-thirds of the state legislatures to do.
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