18 Nov 2020, 5:00 am
funeralxempire
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18 Nov 2020, 4:48 pm
Brictoria wrote:
magz wrote:
"Unlawful" and "unethical" are two separate terms.
And there was nothing "unethical" about it either...Some may consider it as being "inappropriate", but there is no rule that states that a person cannot have their opinion on something, nor that (provided they are not connected with the case) they cannot let others know their opinion.
After all, a prior President help set a precedent for this sort of action with commentary on State level cases such as:
* Obama attacks police over arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates
* President Barack Obama weighed in on the killing of Trayvon Martin, calling it a tragedy, urging cooperation among law enforcement and declaring that "some soul searching" was needed throughout the country.
Given the lack of outcry over those (and more) from the side now complaining about the current President's similar actions, this leads to the legitimate question as to whether it is the "comment" that people have a problem with, or if it is simply used as a weapon to attack the person who made it...
How exactly are the two equal? One is a sitting president speaking out in favour of a murderer who crossed state lines with an illegal firearm to engage in violence and the other is a sitting president condemning police engaging in racial profiling and condemning a racially motivated murder.
18 Nov 2020, 6:30 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
magz wrote:
"Unlawful" and "unethical" are two separate terms.
And there was nothing "unethical" about it either...Some may consider it as being "inappropriate", but there is no rule that states that a person cannot have their opinion on something, nor that (provided they are not connected with the case) they cannot let others know their opinion.
After all, a prior President help set a precedent for this sort of action with commentary on State level cases such as:
* Obama attacks police over arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates
* President Barack Obama weighed in on the killing of Trayvon Martin, calling it a tragedy, urging cooperation among law enforcement and declaring that "some soul searching" was needed throughout the country.
Given the lack of outcry over those (and more) from the side now complaining about the current President's similar actions, this leads to the legitimate question as to whether it is the "comment" that people have a problem with, or if it is simply used as a weapon to attack the person who made it...
How exactly are the two equal? One is a sitting president speaking out in favour of a murderer who crossed state lines with an illegal firearm to engage in violence and the other is a sitting president condemning police engaging in racial profiling and condemning a racially motivated murder.
Not sure which of the 2 examples I provided involved an underage person who "crossed state lines with an illegal firearm to engage in violence", given the Illinois and Wisconsin police have both confirmed the weapon was purchased, stored, and given to Mr Rittenhouse in Wisconsin.
And they are "equal" in that there are hypocrits who claim that the current President speaking out about a case is "unethical", whereas former Presidents who spoke out about open cases weren't.
The reason behind the case makes no difference: If there was no issue with prior Presidents speaking out about active cases potentially "interfering in the court case to sway a potential jury", then there should equally be no issue with the current President also speaking out about cases...Those who ignored the action under one President, yet see the same action under a different one as "unethical" show the issue isn't the action that was taken, rather it is merely a weapon they will use to attack the person who took the action.
18 Nov 2020, 6:53 pm
18 Nov 2020, 7:41 pm
18 Nov 2020, 8:41 pm
No, the election is how we democratically decide the president, it's not a dig at snowflake Republicans. Maybe you wouldn't be taking it personally if you weren't crassly shoving neo-con propaganda down our throats.
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18 Nov 2020, 8:42 pm
tl;dr
Downplaying hate crimes is a really weak stance for anyone.
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18 Nov 2020, 8:58 pm
18 Nov 2020, 9:01 pm
He wouldn't be stressing such things if he had any respect. We are not going after the person, only his violently inclined lies.
Welcome to the court of public opinion.
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-Georges Lemaitre
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18 Nov 2020, 9:08 pm
18 Nov 2020, 9:15 pm
Brictoria is standing behind a minor with an illegal assault weapon killing people whom I'm pretty sure weren't out to kill anyone.
Good thing this is reality & not a partisan-predicated debate class.
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-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos
18 Nov 2020, 9:16 pm
You are clearly more concerned with high-school level politics if you are more concerned with the winner of the debate than the perpetrators of murder.
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-Gem Tos
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