Woman calls cops another Black Jogger

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I'm a fan of witnessing mental gymnastics in defence of deplorable individuals

Setting aside your "understanding" of defamation (and your highly suspect definition of "reasonable"), the case is about more than just the claims of "racism". In fact, the closest it gets is in relation to the claimed "internal review" that was quoted as justifying the assertion, and whether it occurred.

And to try to pre-empt the inevitable claim: Opinion is not a defence against defamation, except in certain, limited areas...If an "opinion" is presented as being a factual statement, it is not considered an "opinion", but rather a statement of fact (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milkovich_v._Lorain_Journal_Co.:



The fact you don't understand what the case is actually about (and not aligned with your assumptions) doesn't make your views on it true. If you're interested, the "complaint" can be viewed at https://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Amy-Cooper-v.-Franklin-Templeton-Complaint.pdf - It won't change the minds of those who have fixed views, but may at least help them understand what it is really about...

I'm looking forward to the reply, as well as what will be included in the inevitable motion seeking the dismissal of the case - thus far only one side has been put forward, and it is difficult to come to a reasoned conclusion regarding the merits of it without knowing the view of the other party - Anyone claiming it will go a certain way, knowing only one side of the story, demonstrates a complete lack of objectivity regarding the case.


Given there are 7 individual counts in the case, 2 specifically connected with the assertions of "racism" (and "internal review" that supposedly supported this), 3 related to race\sex discrimination (were she of another race\sex, would the same treatment have been received by her - which was the reason for asking those who were so certain of her "crime" whether her being a different race would affect their view of the circumstances involved, as this is what would be considered under those counts by the court), and 2 are "duty of care" related to her company facilitating the transmission of calls\SMS to her through publicly releasing her mobile number.

So, even if your subjective assertion that she was a "racist" were true, that would not result in her case being dismissed... And some of those other counts look quite interesting from an acadmic point of view (for instance: [to what extent] is an employer responsible for abusive calls\messages received by an employee through having published their contact number publicly)

Wow...I didn't realise he wasn't an "African American" man... I can see how describing a person of one race as being of another race could presumably be interpreted as a racist act... Even more so when weaponised to try and diminish what they are saying.

So are you seriously suggesting Amy Cooper is going to be some type of "Erin Brokovich" and make legal history

Oh for heaven's sake

I foresaw all charges dismissed.

Is that what you foresaw too?

I forsaw her losing her job....she got her just punishments....

She definitely had to lose her job, because of the bad PR.

Templeton Franklin (TF) could of quietly fired her for almost any reason -- legally.

However, TF choose to publicly characterize her as a *racist* on twitter, Fortune website, Bloomberg website, multiple video interviews on youtube.

If an employer is going so publicly and ruthlessly destroy an employee's reputation, based on their interpretation of a single incident, without doing a full investigation of the facts, then they need to compensate her.

So, how much compensation do you forsee?

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TF said they don't tolerate racism. They never said "she is a racist", that's quite a big distinction. As mentioned over 65 pages her actions were interpreted as racist and TF had high powered people in the state of NY (including Cuomo and De Blasio) say exactly the same thing and even going further.

I can forsee her financial compensation = $0

at this point she is just a noisy nuisance, if she gets paid to shut up i am all in.

Good point Blabs! I never thought about that.

Her lawyers have made a calculation that the longer you keep TF in the news the more likely they might well settle out of court to avoid the bad press.

This is precisely why CNN settled out of court with the little rat Nicholas Sandmann because their lawyers knew that even when their case gets thrown out the time spent publicly dragging CNN through the mud (with Trump happily joining in) was ruining their brand with advertisers.

it's about harm reduction at this point. the sooner she is back in unknown-ness the better.

I also forgot (given the time that;s elapsed) she also made a second call to 911 claiming he was physically assaulting her. She later admitted too was a hoax and was probably more damaging to her case given it was a blatant lie.

i think if she got an anonymous job with a non-profit somewhere else away from the city, she could chart a path back to decency for herself.

Yeah I don't think she would win and I would be surprised if she did. Plus he never even touched her so it's impossible to assault someone without touching them.

Agreed!