D'oh: 18% of Americans still believe vaccines cause autism

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22 Jan 2011, 10:18 pm

Seriously: http://www.usatoday.com/yourlife/health ... tism_N.htm

According to the study:

52% of Americans don't believe the connection

18% firmly believe the connection

30% are unsure

Bonus: 16% of Americans knew somebody's parents who decided not to give their child all of the recommended vaccines due to autism concerns.

This study has been denounced plenty of times by the scientific community since it came out and Andrew Wakefield has been exposed as a fraud. Why do people still believe this study? :wall:



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22 Jan 2011, 10:23 pm

Great, I live in the stupid nation :roll:


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22 Jan 2011, 10:38 pm

Peko wrote:
Great, I live in the stupid nation :roll:


duh



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22 Jan 2011, 11:30 pm

The whole Wakefield problem is a showcase of the issue of capitalism vs medicine. I don't think business and saving peoples lives should be integrated anymore, because somebody will be willing to cheat to get ahead.



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22 Jan 2011, 11:46 pm

What's wrong with being unsure? They're probably either skeptical or are unfamiliar with the literature proving the link false. I can't fault somebody for having doubts about something. That's a good sign.

52% not believing the connection is also a good sign.

The 18% who do believe the connection can have fun with their diseased children, and I'm willing to bet many of these people are just misinformed and not headstrong about the vaccination/autism link.



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22 Jan 2011, 11:46 pm

Seriously? That's pathetic.

Explains a few elections though.



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22 Jan 2011, 11:59 pm

Well, whether vaccines cause autism or not, I think the real question here is: what percent of Americans believe that injecting 26 vaccines all containing neurologically harmful substances into a child within its first year of life, when the brain and immune system isn't even fully developed yet, will not cause some sort of damage?

What percent of Americans understand that vaccines are the LEAST effective method of protection?

What percent of Americans know that the mortality rate of the measles (and probably various other illnesses) dropped by more than 97% before a vaccine even existed?


I think most Americans are completely brainwashed, ignorant fools, who cannot think for themselves. But then, I think that of more than just Americans, I think that of most people.


Continue on with your double-think, people. You know that the media lies, but you all eat it up anyway. Congratulations.


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23 Jan 2011, 2:50 am

Whether vaccinations cause autism or not, you really have to wonder what kind of effect injecting mercury and other chemicals will have on someone, particularly little kids who are nowhere near being fully developed.



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23 Jan 2011, 5:11 pm

buryuntime wrote:
What's wrong with being unsure? They're probably either skeptical or are unfamiliar with the literature proving the link false. I can't fault somebody for having doubts about something. That's a good sign.

52% not believing the connection is also a good sign.

The 18% who do believe the connection can have fun with their diseased children, and I'm willing to bet many of these people are just misinformed and not headstrong about the vaccination/autism link.


There's nothing wrong with being unsure. I had the biggest problem with the 18% who firmly believe that link. Some of those 18% are refusing to vaccinate their children, which puts a lot of others at risk. I know 18% doesn't sound like a lot, but that can mean hundreds of thousands of American children not having protection from awful diseases like polio.

Hopefully as more people hear about the fraud of Wakefield the amount of people who believe this study goes down.



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23 Jan 2011, 8:31 pm

The world doesn't revolve around us. We're less than 1% so I don't except the layman to know jack s**t about us. And there's nothing wrong with being unsure, that's better than saying things as if you're dead certain about em. 18% is actually not bad, I was expecting it to be higher than that.



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23 Jan 2011, 9:07 pm

I'm not vaccinating either of my kids and guess why.

But first let me say this I don't know who the heck Dr. Wakefield is and nor do I care

1. I know I don't build immunity to the vaccines and neither do my kids
2. The shot made me seriously ill and I got the actual virus Measles
3. My kids and I are allergic to the materials used in the vaccines
4. I'm not 100% comfortable in injecting a baby with so many chemicals and allergens
5 Both my kids have strong indications of immune disorders and I have a primary immune deficiency
plus an autoimmune disorder.

I think the vaccines are not safe for various people 5-10% of the population and quite frankly it is flat out stupid to tell people they are safe for everyone. Nothing is safe for everyone especially not in massive amounts. You can die if you drink too much
water, eat too much sugar and are diabetic, and we are not all alike chemically. 26 vaccines for a young baby/child is
a strange idea. Surely some of these vaccines could be given at older ages without major problems especially for those with
a family history of allergies, auto immune disorders and various other issues. Would it really be that awful to wait until a child is
6 months to start immunizations if they have the above family history and do some immunological testing or allergy testing? Nothing is 100% safe to think so is an exercise in stupidity, yes it may be safe for 90-95% of the population but there are exceptions to every rule. I would NEVER want to take the MMR ever again(I don't want Measles again)



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25 Jan 2011, 8:52 am

I'm no longer surprised by the ignorance of some Americans.

A survey was conducted, asking American parents what they would do if they found out that their son is a Homo Sapiens.

About 70% said they would kick him out of the house.


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25 Jan 2011, 10:11 am

clumsybee wrote:

This study has been denounced plenty of times by the scientific community since it came out and Andrew Wakefield has been exposed as a fraud. Why do people still believe this study? :wall:


CLICK HERE



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25 Jan 2011, 10:12 am

kate123A wrote:
I'm not vaccinating either of my kids and guess why.

But first let me say this I don't know who the heck Dr. Wakefield is and nor do I care

1. I know I don't build immunity to the vaccines and neither do my kids
2. The shot made me seriously ill and I got the actual virus Measles
3. My kids and I are allergic to the materials used in the vaccines
4. I'm not 100% comfortable in injecting a baby with so many chemicals and allergens
5 Both my kids have strong indications of immune disorders and I have a primary immune deficiency
plus an autoimmune disorder.

I think the vaccines are not safe for various people 5-10% of the population and quite frankly it is flat out stupid to tell people they are safe for everyone. Nothing is safe for everyone especially not in massive amounts. You can die if you drink too much
water, eat too much sugar and are diabetic, and we are not all alike chemically. 26 vaccines for a young baby/child is
a strange idea. Surely some of these vaccines could be given at older ages without major problems especially for those with
a family history of allergies, auto immune disorders and various other issues. Would it really be that awful to wait until a child is
6 months to start immunizations if they have the above family history and do some immunological testing or allergy testing? Nothing is 100% safe to think so is an exercise in stupidity, yes it may be safe for 90-95% of the population but there are exceptions to every rule. I would NEVER want to take the MMR ever again(I don't want Measles again)


I consider most of these to be legitimate reasons to not get your kids vaccinated.


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26 Jan 2011, 8:33 pm

Simsam114 wrote:
I'm no longer surprised by the ignorance of some Americans.

A survey was conducted, asking American parents what they would do if they found out that their son is a Homo Sapiens.

About 70% said they would kick him out of the house.


I'm a homo sapien sapien like most people. If my son was a homo sapien I'd be more worried about my wife. How did she build a time machine without me knowing it and why is she shleping around with an extinct subspecies?



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09 Feb 2011, 7:51 pm

To paraphrase the late H.L. Mencken:
Nobody ever lost money betting against the intelligence of the American public.

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