The REAL cause of the totenham riots...

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For those who don't follow UK news the London riots have been going on for 3 days. Now they have even spread to Birmingham. Peoples houses have been burned down and there is widespread looting in full view of the authorities. Apparently this was caused because a 29 year old father of 4 (of mixed race) got shot by police in the back if the taxi. The officer fired 4 shots and after had a bullet lodged in his radio. The guy was dead. It is unclear if the guy shot at the officer (or was even armed.at all) at present.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248

IMO this has been caused by the restriction many of the peoples eligibility for social security payments. In short, people in these areas are young, broke, unlikely to get a job and hacked off.

In the last few hours however a new video has come to light. Showing grainy footage of a 16 year old girl getting beaten by police. This has apparently been the cause of further violence as far from London as Birmingham. I first found the story on the telegraphs website but its since been removed.

Here's the video (lots of swearing, over 18 only)

http://www.tntmagazine.com/tnt-today/ar ... video.aspx

Your thoughts?

UPDATE 9-8-11

Well whether we like it or not, history was made last night. The disenfranchised youth of the so called "sub-culture" of the UK finally let their voices be known in the only way they know how.
Maybe we will come to realise from this that the farce of a two horse race we call democracy that it isn't really a democracy at all. In fact it thrives off of peoples ignorance, politicians have no need for their vote so why give them a voice. Divide and rule.

Im NOT at all saying that this is the way they SHOULD behave, rather this is the only way they know how to behave. The crap music riddled with bad messages sold to them by massive multinational corporations and state media (Sony, BBC 1Xtra, etc) is all they know about being part of a culture/society. Do they know the difference between left and right wing politics, rite and wrong?

VIDEO "showing the rich we can do what we want":

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

Google maps riot zones:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=2 ... 5,0.298691

Birmingham:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bi ... m-14452468

Liverpool:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-me ... e-14453303

Even Bristol:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -23331831/


Always described as mindless... Is it really for no reason? I beg to differ. Many looters when asked what they were doing replied "getting my taxes back". Considering you would assume that many of the perpetrators don't even pay taxes. What do you think they believe they are owed?

Its only £55 a week to me and you, to them, its security. To the rioters Its like society has abandoned them.

There is also new talk this morning of sending the army in. IMHO this would a massive mistake and would probably cause a division that would run for years. STUPID! (this has since been ruled out by the police)

For those of you who think its a black problem and not a class issue, watch this:

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no no no.

restriction on social security? are you kidding me??

it's just opportunistic little tramps seeing a chance to get free s**t. and what really pisses me off is how they are completely trashing their own communities. everywhere's getting wrecked. people in flats above shops set alight have lost their homes and everything they own- theyre lucky they didnt lose their lives.

they arent protesting or even trying to prove a point, they are just joining in the 'fun'

Reap what you sow.

I would not want to be in the position of someone wanting to riot.

I would not want to be a family not wanting to riot living in the area.

I would not want to be a police officer trying to balance the needs/uses of force with respect to everyone involved tonight.

There are people from this area who tried to help others living there, they must feel devastated by this.

I saw the last riots firsthand.

I think the majority, if not all of the people involved in this are in it for the 'fun' rather than for a cause. Look at the most recent video in B'ham. Everyone's laughing like it's a big game. There are not 'weekly' shootings in London, it's rare. I don't think any of this stuff going on has anything to do with the killing of this man any more. Even his family are condemning the violence. As for that 16 year old girl, darling learn a lesson about the real world, throwing glass bottles at police DOES get you restrained.

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No the 1980's riots- I was a teenager. I didn't see much except a few nights where gangs of very angry looking men, with non firearm weapons running around and shouting and getting mad.I saw a mini riot in Amsterdam go off as well and for the life of me I had no idea what that was about.

Bit scary for me, in this case here very disturbing for all involved, but it seems part of the cycle of human behavior.

No, it's criminal scum acting like criminal scum. There is no other justification that can ameliorate these people's actions. Scum will act like scum.

If I were the British police I would have done a Genoa or a CRS on the bastards. They wouldn't have been able to do much rioting after they'd experienced that lot.

They're simply following, ( in their own "crude" and necessarily limited way ), the example offered everyday by their better educated, richer, privileged peers, ... which is looting and destroying other people's livelihoods, property, other countries' environments, etc without remorse.

They see that this sort of behaviour goes unpunished, that the perpetrators are feted/admired/respected or at the least successful, taking fabulous holidays, buying bottles of wine at £85,000, cars for £100,000s, with second and even third houses, yachts for a mere million or two, etc.

I'm not condoning it, but I can understand it.

They see those who are represented in media etc as our "elders and betters" engaging in smash and grab, and when they can, when in sufficient numbers, they do the same.
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