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EmilyB
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16 Dec 2006, 2:17 pm

I have heard estimates of how many people that have been injured by Vioxx, Celebrex, and Bextra keep going up. If you have heard anything on the news about the Vioxx trials, I would like to talk to you about it, because I keep up to date on lawsuits. Haven't you heard it has been causing skin related problems, heart attack, stroke, and even sudden cardiac death.

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16 Dec 2006, 3:38 pm

The first major case in the Vioxx saga involved a man in the Houston area.

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16 Dec 2006, 4:32 pm

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The first major case in the Vioxx saga involved a man in the Houston area.

Tim


It is pretty sad what those people have to go through. It is nice to know that. :)



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16 Dec 2006, 4:36 pm

I was medicated at the tender age of 12 with vioxx! Luckily, It didn't have any serious side-effects(as far as I can remember) but I am lucky to stay alive. I was medicated for a knee injury.



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16 Dec 2006, 4:55 pm

People need to realize the world is massively overpopulated we do not need to be developing medical technology (its too risky anyway). We need people to die. And if
extreme pain from arthritis can trigger people to lose the will to live because no
non-narcotic pain meds are available that do not cause gastrointestinal bleeding
thats a good thing. Plus it will avoid lawsuites in the future. Oh and thanks to the
DEA for making it so hard for people in extreme pain to get narcotic pain meds in the
US. If people were getting treatment for their extreme pain they may want to live.
Anyway herbs are all we need to treat illness. Vioxx made me super mad it made millions of people live in less pain and prevented thousands of earily deaths while only
increasing cardiovascular events in a small number of people. Thats just the kinda med that will make over-population and human happiest grow. Anyway my realtive with crippling disfiguring arthritis make funny youtube video material for rich lawyers to watch. Thanks to all my anti-technology aspies brothers and sisters for their support
in this matter with out you no telling how much medical techonlogy may get out of the pipeline.



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16 Dec 2006, 5:35 pm

like to say one thing thats just as bad as taking the vx to want illegal drugs theres a reason they called illegal..

be safer taking the vs

"" would be sarcastic and saying don't worry about death's we have the americans backing us in war ""

Thats what you get with modern tablets they get pushed out - so they can beat other companys and the bad information goes in the back draw so the research is not steped back... Thats why I don't read FDA sites...



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16 Dec 2006, 9:00 pm

TheMachine1, you just made the stupidest post ever! Congratulations!



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16 Dec 2006, 11:35 pm

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TheMachine1, you just made the stupidest post ever! Congratulations!


Thanks but my post was sarcasm(I know some aspies do not get the concept of sarcasm). Anyway you calling anything I write stupid is like the "pot calling the kettle
black".

My nomination for stupidest post would have to be limited to people being serious and in that case heres mine:

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Anyway, as to answer the question, I do masturbate at least once every day

In other words, you are over-masturbating.
This site www.actionlove.com solves problems related to sexual exhaustion. Better reduce it before you experience it yourself(I am talking out of experience).



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17 Dec 2006, 12:10 am

TheMachine1 wrote:
Revenant wrote:
TheMachine1, you just made the stupidest post ever! Congratulations!


Thanks but my post was sarcasm(I know some aspies do not get the concept of sarcasm). Anyway you calling anything I write stupid is like the "pot calling the kettle
black".

My nomination for stupidest post would have to be limited to people being serious and in that case heres mine:

Revenant wrote:
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Anyway, as to answer the question, I do masturbate at least once every day

In other words, you are over-masturbating.
This site www.actionlove.com solves problems related to sexual exhaustion. Better reduce it before you experience it yourself(I am talking out of experience).


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'll second that. It certainly qualifies as most bizarre too :lol:


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17 Dec 2006, 12:29 am

TheMachine1 wrote:
People need to realize the world is massively overpopulated we do not need to be developing medical technology (its too risky anyway). We need people to die. And if
extreme pain from arthritis can trigger people to lose the will to live because no
non-narcotic pain meds are available that do not cause gastrointestinal bleeding
thats a good thing. Plus it will avoid lawsuites in the future. Oh and thanks to the
DEA for making it so hard for people in extreme pain to get narcotic pain meds in the
US. If people were getting treatment for their extreme pain they may want to live.
Anyway herbs are all we need to treat illness. Vioxx made me super mad it made millions of people live in less pain and prevented thousands of earily deaths while only
increasing cardiovascular events in a small number of people. Thats just the kinda med that will make over-population and human happiest grow. Anyway my realtive with crippling disfiguring arthritis make funny youtube video material for rich lawyers to watch. Thanks to all my anti-technology aspies brothers and sisters for their support
in this matter with out you no telling how much medical techonlogy may get out of the pipeline.

That is a very interesting approach even if you didnt mean to be 100% serious. I am not anti-technology at all, but I see where you are coming from on some points. Herbs are great medicine and I don't understand why humanity has strayed so far from a more natural approach, which is often perfectly fine to treat some medical conditions. I will not be having a child of my own because I think overpopulation is such a huge issue. I think I would like to adopt a child from a young mother one day though.

Although Vioxx, Celebrex and others have caused quite a number of deaths themselves which is why I err on the side of precaution and do not take these drugs when they are offered by doctors.
Couldn't the drugs be considered a form of population control due to the amount of death they can and have caused?



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17 Dec 2006, 9:37 am

Not all the world is overpopulated - only some parts are.

I think too much effort is spent on keeping people alive when their quality of life sucks. I don't suggest active euthanasia, but there comes a point when it is cruel to keep people alive if they are in too much pain or they become vegetables.

If an elderly person dies of a heart attack or stroke then that must mean it was their time to go. It is only cruel to rescuscitate them and put heaps of tubes in them just so they might survive a few more weeks or months. That is probably why DNR is getting popular - "Do Not Rescuscitate". However, the person's wishes in this matter can still be ignored.

There comes a time when it is better just to keep the person comfortable (palliative care) and let nature take its course rather than using heroic methods to save them for a life of pain and suffering.


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17 Dec 2006, 12:08 pm

How can I detect the sarcasm when you write it in a completely serious manner? There was nothing in that post indicating sarcasm, and even NTs would misunderstand that. It's not very nice to bring up my posts to ridicule me either.



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17 Dec 2006, 12:55 pm

Revenant wrote:
How can I detect the sarcasm when you write it in a completely serious manner? There was nothing in that post indicating sarcasm, and even NTs would misunderstand that. It's not very nice to bring up my posts to ridicule me either.


Maybe the very fact you called it stupid should have stimulated your brain to process
I may have been trying to make a point. Vioxx is still on whole a good drug.



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18 Dec 2006, 12:36 pm

Revenant wrote:
How can I detect the sarcasm when you write it in a completely serious manner? There was nothing in that post indicating sarcasm, and even NTs would misunderstand that. It's not very nice to bring up my posts to ridicule me either.


Maybe, just maybe, since this is after all an aspie community, we should have the policy of indicating sarcasm by using the following tags:

[sarcasm] -> indicates that sarcasm has begun
[/sarcasm] -> indicates that sarcasm has ended.



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18 Dec 2006, 12:53 pm

I thought the :/ :), Be nice if they add a sarcastic face Emoticon or even so use this in the "view more Emoticons :jester:



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21 Dec 2006, 12:33 am

I used to take Vioxx and still would if it wasn't banned.