Post Office Union Won't Tolerate Competition

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20 Jan 2014, 3:53 pm

Link: Staples' Mini-Post Offices Draw Union Ire.

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Workers are concerned the experimental locations -- staffed by Staples employees, not Postal Service employees -- will lead to the closure of traditional post offices and the loss of jobs with good wages and benefits. In the 1980s, the Postal Service and Sears struck an arrangement similar to the one at Staples today. Postal unions protested and the program was eventually canceled.

"We do not have any problem with the people of this country getting expanded access to postal service. We are willing to support this program as long as it's staffed with United States Postal Service employees." -- Mark Dimondstein, president of the American Postal Workers Union.

In other words, "You can run your business, as long as we run it for you."

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Effing effed-up unions ...

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20 Jan 2014, 4:58 pm

There is a mountain of empirical evidence to show that any business that unions touch, ends up flirting with bankruptcy.

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20 Jan 2014, 5:16 pm

MoonGateClimber wrote:

There is a mountain of empirical evidence to show that any business that unions touch, ends up flirting with bankruptcy.

Maybe if management treated their work force like human beings, rather than sides of beef, there wouldn't be unions.

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20 Jan 2014, 5:19 pm

This is nothing new. The US Postal Service has *never* tolerated competition, since the day it was founded...

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20 Jan 2014, 5:35 pm

Meistersinger wrote:

Maybe if management treated their work force like human beings, rather than sides of beef, there wouldn't be unions.

Since the postal workers belong to a public sector union, management is the US government, and their generous pay and pension packages come from our tax dollars. WE are the ones being treated like sides of beef.

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20 Jan 2014, 5:53 pm

Magneto wrote:

This is nothing new. The US Postal Service has *never* tolerated competition, since the day it was founded...

Those bastards even own your mailbox even though YOU paid for it.

18 USC 1702, 1705, 1708, and 1725.

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20 Jan 2014, 6:30 pm

It seems to me that if the Postal Workers' Union is so concerned about losing jobs to a store chain, then the PWU should consider either:

(a) Doing more work;
(b) Doing the work better;
(c) Doing the work faster;
(d) Working for less pay; or
(e) All of the above.

Instead, these goons want to "muscle in" on an already profitable, efficient, and private enterprise, and enforce their rules "or else".

:roll: Unions ... PFEH!

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20 Jan 2014, 6:48 pm

I'm surprised they haven't found a way to do away with UPS and Fedex.

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20 Jan 2014, 7:28 pm

MoonGateClimber wrote:

There is a mountain of empirical evidence to show that any business that unions touch, ends up flirting with bankruptcy.

It not that the USPS is union, but it is also not completely an independent business.
Any business the government gets into, it does very poorly at.

I think they should open up competition and let companies like FedEX & UPS handle standard first class mail as well.
That would be death nail in the coffin of the USPS.

The government also needs to cut the USPS loose and let it die, it's broken and needs to.

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20 Jan 2014, 9:23 pm

Raptor wrote:

I'm surprised they haven't found a way to do away with UPS and Fedex.

How do you think the government itself gets its material delivered on time?

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20 Jan 2014, 11:41 pm

MoonGateClimber wrote:

There is a mountain of empirical evidence to show that any business that unions touch, ends up flirting with bankruptcy.

I agree, jobs are lost and consumers often suffer, luckily they didn't permanently eradicate Twinkies a couple years ago :lol:

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21 Jan 2014, 4:56 am

MoonGateClimber wrote:

Meistersinger wrote:

Maybe if management treated their work force like human beings, rather than sides of beef, there wouldn't be unions.

So giving people an fair loan, makes you treated like side of beef? O_o I thought it makes you a normal person.

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21 Jan 2014, 6:46 am

Schneekugel wrote:

So giving people an fair loan, makes you treated like side of beef? O_o I thought it makes you a normal person.

As one American public sector union leader boasted, "Who else gets to elect the people we negotiate with."  This mentality has created an incestuous relationship between the public sector unions and democrat politicians who happily buy union votes with our money. The taxpayers seem to be the only ones with no representation at the negotiating table. I do not understand your use of the word loan, this more closely equates to extortion. There is nothing fair about this.

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21 Jan 2014, 4:21 pm

MoonGateClimber wrote:

Meistersinger wrote:

Maybe if management treated their work force like human beings, rather than sides of beef, there wouldn't be unions.

they have not been paid with tax dollars since the 80s

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21 Jan 2014, 6:17 pm

chris5000 wrote:

MoonGateClimber wrote:

Meistersinger wrote:

Maybe if management treated their work force like human beings, rather than sides of beef, there wouldn't be unions.

they have not been paid with tax dollars since the 80s

The Postal Service is a semi-independent, revenue-neutral, federal agency that is supposed to break even and not make a profit. And despite being exempt from vehicle licensing requirements, sales taxes, local property taxes, receiving amnesty from parking tickets, having eminent domain powers and paying to itself the income taxes that it would owe if it were a private business, it’s on borrowed time. It’s in a financial death spiral due to declining volume, bloated operating expenses, and a costly and inflexible unionized workforce.

It is also required by law to cover its costs. It’s estimated that they’re losing $25 million daily with an accumulated a debt of $13 billion. Taxpayers may not bankroll the Postal Service, but whom do you think made up their humongous loss in the form of a bailout? The government’s favorite backstop, the American taxpayer.

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21 Jan 2014, 9:32 pm

The big mess of the post office
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45018432

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