Trump Administration Set to Eliminate NASA’s Climate Researc

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Trump Administration Set to Eliminate NASA’s Climate Research


Our world is one thing, but its our children's world, their tomorrow, he is going to help destroy.

Oh god. THIS is the stuff I really fear about this man, and this stuff is where the outcome is that ultimately the whole world is affected, not just something that only takes place in the country he is leading...

NASA does not do climate research. What it does is measure temperatures in the upper part of the atmosphere and record them so researchers can use the data to test or formulate their climate models...

An yet there is nothing that can be done; whatever liberal do it would somehow turn to the advantage of the conservatives, that the curse of the century we live in. We can only watch as civilization walk toward his death.

The only hope left is if the rest of the world takes the lead, and drags the US with it. Will the world do it, or are they too weak-willed, too dependent on the US to do anything?

NASA's primary focus has always been space exploration

Maybe in the far future, an alien civilization will come to the dead planet once called earth. and looking at the data we've left behind will determine that the planet's fate was sealed when a carrot head was elected President and changed the course of changing the planet's fate.

They are probably already documenting our demise...

I welcome Global Warming. It is the best chance we have of feeding mankind. A warmer Earth is a more productive Earth. There is no reason to panic about it.

The danger is Global Cooling, not Global Warming. It wouldn't take much cooling to reduce the productivity of the Earth and result in major problems with starvation.

Don't forget that we are in an ice age and when this interglacial period ends and the next glaciation begins, the number one and number two causes of death are likely to be starvation and being killed in wars over resources. Which will be number one and which will be number two remains to be seen.

But will climate change stop where we want it to? I sincerely doubt it. Eventually, the earth will get so hot and dried out, it'll look like Dune.

That's not going to happen with any amount of Global Warming we could possibly see for now. It will happen in the very long term as the sun runs out of fuel for its nuclear fusion and starts to get larger. At that point, the oceans will boil away and this is going to be a very inhospitable planet. If man still exists, it will be on other planets, most likely in other solar systems, not here.

People worry that Global Warming could spiral out of control. The reality is that spiraling out of control is not possible.

Consider this. It has been much warmer in the past history of the Earth. The Earth is considerably cooler than normal -- the only thing cooler is a period of glaciation in an ice age. We're in an ice age, but it is a warm period in the ice age. Warmer is normal.

In spite of the much higher temperatures, Earth did not become something like Dune. My understanding is that it is thought to have been very lush with vegetation and life at the higher temperatures. Mankind, of course, would have to adapt to substantially higher temperatures, but we aren't going to see that with out current Global Warming.

It seems most likely that ice ages, such as our current ice age, the Quarternary Glaciation which began approximately 2.6 million years ago, is the result of geological processes. We may have to wait for Antarctica to move away from the South Pole so as to allow the ocean currents to change before it is over. We are looking at millions of years for that.

Within our ice age, certain long term periods called Milankovich Cycles in which the Earth's orbit varies over time leading to cooler periods of glaciations as well as warmer interglacial periods such as the current Holocene.

Typically, interglacial periods is believed to lasts around 8,000 to 15,000 years or so. The Holocene as lasted nearly 12,000 years already. It could start cooling off at any time or we may have another thousand years or more before it starts cooling off. When it does, expect man's existence on Earth to become much more difficult and a large proportion of the population of the Earth to die off due to the much smaller carrying capacity of the Earth as well as wars over those resources.

That should be your worry -- the end of the Holocene. Warming is good news.

I am betting on a resumption of our ice age (which is still in session. There is permanent ice at both poles).

The Alarmists thing the Earth is going to turn into Venus next year or the year after.

The Earth won't become like Venus. I might have told The_Walrus something like that yesterday, but that was to show the absurdity of other countries standing by while America continues to pump out CO2.

The effects will be harmful, however. One big reason is that the warming will be happening too fast for the fauna and flora of the world to adapt. There can also be a snowballing effect, as a certain level of warming is likely to begin to release methane from under the tundra, an even stronger greenhouse gas which would cause accelerated warming. The higher levels of CO2 are killing our coral reefs due to ocean acidification.

Also, where you are growing plants, if the climate where you are gets too hot for the plants you are growing, you may be unable to grow them further north because they could be unable to get enough sunlight at that latitude.

There are various impacts. Someone more knowledgeable can share them where I missed them or explain certain points better.

Or maybe civilization will collapse enough times in the future to prevent any interstellar migration, leaving us to die in a cataclysmic horror straight out of Revelations.

Yes this is a major impact on our great barrier reef off the north east coast of Australia. Despite the data on acidification and bleaching of coral our conservative government continues to peddle the myth that CO2 is not anthropogenic. As our conservative government continues to pander to fossil fuel industries our local fauna is having less food and this impacts on ecosystems both aquatic and terrestrial.

The polar bear population in Greenland and Canada is decimated due to reduced ice lowering the polar bear's natural food source. We now have a leader in the USA who is actively appointing climate skeptics and petroleum/coal beneficiaries into positions controlling climate policy in the USA. Selective ignorance.

There will be no snowballing effect. Worrying about that is nothing but a complete disconnect from the science.

As for your crops, just look to a warmer climate to see what you will be able to grow. Yeah, you may not be able to grow the exact same crops that you have now, but that is hardly a problem. For some crops, you will be able to continue to grow them. Instead of one growing season per year, you might have two each year.

One thing that few people seem to realize is that the warming would not be uniform throughout the world. A two or three degree average warming would see most of the warming closer to the poles and hardly any warming, if any at all, near the equator. It might easily push the area in which one can farm northward (and southward) by a few hundred miles. More growing area with longer seasons is not a disaster.