All This Recent Kanye Idiocy

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Hi all.

A while ago, Kanye West said some positive things about Donald Trump ... and now the conservatives are acting as though he's an awesome guy. Even the folks on Fox News are saying positive things about him.

I don't know how to say this politely, so I won't bother. The right-wing reaction to Kanye has been idiotic. I don't care if I'm violating right-wing political correctness by saying that.

FACTS:

- Conservatives usually assert that liberals and leftists get their political opinions from celebrities and "celebrity culture" ... so this sudden obsession over Kanye is hypocritical. Either celebrity worship is okay or it isn't.
- Last decade, conservatives were hating on Kanye West for calling out George W. Bush's racism.
- Kanye is clearly a dumb attention seeker. His past comments regarding Bush were probably true, but his comments were nonetheless useless. At the time he made those comments, every smart person already know that George W. was a s**t president. Kanye didn't really change anyone's mind.
- Kanye said that Trump "speaks futuristically". What in holy Hell does that even mean? What about the stuff that the Trump administration does in terms of policy making? Is politics just a male beauty pageant now?

Bottom Line: One of the biggest problems in American politics (and Western culture in general) is the "style over substance" problem. Has this problem finally reached its Zenith?

P.S. Kanye says that he wants to run for president in the future. Would he be a good president? Of course not. He might end up being even worse than Trump. Does he have a chance of winning? Probably. Nowadays, if you want to be the president of the United States, all you have to do is make a lot of noise and piss off some people ... who are offended by everything anyways. Policies no longer matter. Everyone thinks that policy-making is for nerdy crybabies.

I could run for president by saying "I think that furries are ruining America!" People would give me constant attention and applaud me for "boldly speaking my mind." After becoming president, I could put poison in the tap water and kill everyone. People who objected to this would be labeled "butthurt closet furries" and so everyone would die. American politics is seriously approaching that level of idiocy.

I don't think anyone is praising Kanye for being an awesome guy. They are praising his courage in voicing his opinions, even if his opinions are unpopular amongst the celebrity crowd, and not backing down from his beliefs. Political correctness mostly stems from the left, and since most celebrities are left-wing, it is highly unusual for him to be taking such a stance. That is what the commotion is about. He might lose many fans and money over his beliefs because the left are not very open to other viewpoints, but he refuses to be silenced.

Not everyone can become president. The American people still vote on policy. Whether you like Donald Trump or not is another matter, but people voted for him based on that -- not because he said a bunch of stuff to piss people off. If anything, the stuff he said to piss people off actually made even conservatives turn against him during the campaign and they were actively working against him to make sure he wasn't elected. So, it all comes down to substance in the end.

Agreeing with the current president of the United States never takes any courage whatsoever.



There are actually quite a few right-wing celebrities. Chuck Norris and Clint Eastwood are among them. This also includes the president himself.

There is a ton of political correctness on the right. Whenever a celebrity insults men/whites/America/Christians/whatever the right always gets super butthurt. This is just another version of political correctness. It's all the same s**t.



The left is generally tolerant of other viewpoints that aren't destructive. That's why we tolerate Islam, atheism and Christianity, but don't tolerate white nationalism or climate denial.



I agree. You need to be a ravenous corporate whore to become president. Kanye West would be good at that because he is a celebrity. Celebrities are a bunch of ravenous, money-grubbing whores with no decency. They exist to promote shallow materialism.



Most of the Trump supporters seem to like Trump purely because he's a shit-stirrer. Their pro-Trump statements are usually devoid of logical substance.



Well ... maybe for some people.

You couldn’t be any more right about Trump being a shit-stirrer. But Putin is King Shit-Stirrer. Maybe Xi and Rouhani to a lesser extent.

I think that the far-right and the far-left are both responsible for getting Trump into power to a certain extent. The far-right is partly responsible because they will do anything to piss off the far-left ... including pissing in their own drinking water. Meanwhile, the far-left is enabling this sort of behavior with its hypersensitive "media representation" crap.

If the left wants to regain its lost power, it needs to shed its hypersensitivity and regain a pragmatic, rationalistic approach to policy planning. I already discussed how to achieve this state of mind in my other posts. Transcendence is the key. Remember that your opponents are just mammals, and their words are mere grunts. When you understand nature, you can handle any barrage of insults.

Yep that's it. And importantly the alt-right white racist label can't be attached to him dammit. Let's just hope he doesn't start a trend and more celebrity Trump supporters come out of the closet and shatter the suppression. That would be just awful. Suppression FTW.

If every single celebrity on earth came out as a Trump supporter, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't care because celebrities are lower than feces to me.

You'll care if it breaks the taboo and starts an escalating wave of Trump support.



Equating human beings with feces, or even worse lower than feces, is repugnant. But of course you don't see the repugnance or inanity that drives people away and chalk it up to being the new Socrates and a messiah.

Taboo? What taboo? Trump is the establishment right now. Criticising him isn't taboo.



The entire purpose of celebrities is to lure people away from intellectual topics. They are more repugnant than I could ever be.



I never said that I was a messiah. I just kinda joked about it because so many people think that I have ruined this site single-handedly.

I never said that I was as important as Socrates. I'm similar to Socrates in that I question everything, and I test people using the Socratic method. That doesn't make me as important as Socrates because I didn't invent his method.

I'm not all that significant. People just treat me as though I am significant.

Why did you come to the conclusion I was talking about criticising, when I was clearly talking about celebrities supporting Trump being taboo.



Ah so I'm not the only one who came to that conclusion. I'm usually not when it comes to making calls like that. You know what they say about one bad apple. Except it wasn't single-handed. There's at least one other.



Obviously you don't realize how self-congratulating and braggadocious you usually sound.

I just can't even with Kanye. Dude thinks slavery was a choice.

And now he's going to go do an interview with Alex Jones.

I think it's almost impossible to agree or disagree with Kanye's position, since the only position he seems to hold with any conviction at all is "attention is good and I want everybody to give it to me now."

He was trying to make a metaphor, similar to something Malcolm X said.

I don't know much about this person, never listen to his music. But it seems like a classic case where if anyone famous dares to be pro-Trump they'll get melined to no end.

If it were just a case of kissing up to Trump, that's one action.

Kissing up to Trump, saying he wants to run for President, calling slavery a choice, doubling down when his own friends ask him to clarify, and then using a (false) announcement that he's going on Alex Jones "Info Wars" agitprop bullsnark show?

Nah. The guy's an attention whore.

Good example.

Get a load of this moron.

He thinks that slavery was a choice ... or something. He can barely put a sentence together.

Slavery was a choice? That's the just world hypothesis on steroids.

I had to close my eyes and cringed while watching this video.

I'm so disturbed at his thought pattern. I can see a glimpse of his rational, but it doesn't add up and he doesn't have facts or research. He only has statements that he keeps making up to justify his claim. (...kinda like Trump).

Addressing your bottom line. Yes, I think we have reached its zenith with our society's interest in "style over substance." Will western society be able to collectively acknowledge this shortcoming? I hope so.

Also, I begrudgingly checked his twitter and it looks like he was on drugs or opiads during his mental health breakdown? The guy has lost his mind, literally. I think Kanye needs to take a Twitter break, a media break, and the media needs to stop giving him attention. Any kind of attention like that would damage the chance to cultivate a healthy ego. We need to stop attributing so much cultural merit to what celebrities, especially musicians say. I don't think fanaticism and hero worship should be attributed to any single person. When and why did musicians become spokesperson's for society?