New Alabama law would require vasectomies

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There is a new anti abortion bill in the Alabama state legislature sponsored by Republicans emboldened by there conservative supreme Court.

A Democrat has added an amendment to the bill that would require men who are 50 or on there 3rd child to have vasectomies.

He said he wanted balance for the responsibility of birth control between men and women.

I suspect this is a tactic to get the abortion bill to fail in the legislature or vetoed by the governor.

CNN

So, does the vasectomy bill provide a loophole in the state's domestic violence law?

I don't recall that it did,I don't think domestic violence is an issue in this.I think a vastly out numbered pro choice faction in desperation is trying to stop a bill that could ban all abortions if passed.

I am not familiar with Alabama's domestic violence laws,I am honestly not familiar with Massachusetts or Vermont's domestic violence laws either.I don't recall anything in the article about domestic violence though.

The domestic violence law question was actually meant as a joke about Alabama.

How do you give a hillbilly a vasectomy? You kick his sister in the jaw.

I am sorry I missed that,you joke around a lot I should have known.

That's a good one There are jokes like that about Vermont and Maine too,usually concerning farm animals.

Actually a Vermont man was sent to jail ten years ago for a incident with sheep.

That happened here in good ole York County, PA about 20 years ago, during the York Interstate Fair.

I was working for Pizza Hut at the time. The BAAAAAADDD sheep jokes were prolific at the time (and I instigated most of them at the shop.)

Yeah the right is anti abortion because they say they want to saves lives

The left is anti gun because they say they want to save lives.

Laws against either will not be that effective.

People who want guns will still have guns and likey be punished more severe then the guy who broke in the gun owners house.

The people who want an abortion will either do something that will in danger their life own life or go on vacation to Mexico and come back not pregnant.

^ Yep, that’s what happened in the British Isles until the Republic of Ireland legalised abortion, a short ferry ride to the UK and recovery in a suitable hotel.

No laws are really effective--look at all the crimes--but for decency in society I think it's good to outlaw things that truly are wrong, and that is why I support the pro-life movement even if it is not going to be 100% effective. It will certainly do better than what we have today.

Better how?

I personally cannot see how I would benefit from being forced to endure pregnancy and give birth. When I am not interested in having children and would make a terrible parent. Also I can't afford the cost of pregnancy and giving birth nor am I willing to subject myself to the risks of it.

Why should someone else get to choose what I do in the case of pregnancy? I would terminate ASAP. The closest to pro-life I would get is I wouldn't oppose a reasonable limit on how late someone can have an abortion outside of medical necessity, since I understand there isn't an exact clearly defined cut off, but yeah not into forcing people to have babies against their will.

But whatever maybe leave it as a state thing...I will stay in states that allow abortion, and people who are against it can live in states where it's banned.

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Though I do have to wonder, as it stands now in Alabama

Is there at least an exception to their anti-abortion laws if the embro or fetus, is the result of incest?

The law signed last year made no exceptions except for danger to the mother. However, the law has been blocked by the courts for now, and has not gone into effect.

A few key points:

* The bill has only been proposed

* If enacted, it would affect only those men whose sexual activity is on the decline

* It was proposed by a woman in response to a Women’s Reproductive Rights bill previously introduced and passed by men

In other words, it stands a snowball’s chance in Hell of being put into law.

exactly,it is just designed to kill the anti abortion bill,it was never a serious law.

No, it does not ‘kill’ anything, even if passed into law.

It is only a response to the belief that men have the unabashed privilege of deciding what women can and cannot do with their own bodies. Think about all of the laws that have been passed to regulate women’s reproductive rights, without an equivalent law for men. If this law is passed, it simply makes the state of your scrotum the government’s business, just as those other laws have made the state of a woman’s uterus the government’s business, as well. What’s fair for women is also fair for men.

So, under the proposed law, if you haven’t fathered any offspring by your fiftieth year, then *SNIP!*-*SNIP!*, you lose the right to father offspring forever.

Any Alabama man who couldn’t even get a girlfriend by the age of 50 would simply be out of luck.

It is just about making a statement.