[IMPORTANT] Hamas launches foot assault against settlements.

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I see a fallacy in this discussion which is to assume that if somebody blames one side or the other for this conflict, then that person can only validate the suffering of the civilian population represented by the other side. I see no validity to this.

Equally we should stop equating the consequences for the victims of the HAMAS attack to past actions of the IDF

The girl with Cerbral palsey never deserved to be harmed, what did she do to deserve that?

What the f**k is this then, Scotch's mist?

What the f**k is this then, Scotch's mist?



If you back up what you say by playing oppression Olympics what is one to think?

Sorry, I'm not a linguist, so you will have to CLICK HERE

Also, if people care about half of the innocent victims instead of all of them, what is one to think?

The State of Israel was attacked in an unprovoked attack by all the Arab league in 1948.

There are always limits to what you can allow terrorists to do. You can't let them walk over you and then turn the other cheek.

The State of Israel was attacked in an unprovoked attack by all the Arab league in 1948. The trauma from WWII was already sitting with many of the refugees who faced this onslaught. They collectively decided never again. Despite winning the day, the trauma of Arab attacks on Israeli civilians over multiple wars leaves scars.

unprovoked

Israel's formation displaced a huge number of people. Israel was attacked by nations who were facing a refugee crisis as a result of Israel's ethnic cleansing campaign (the Nakba). You're flat-out lying to insist that the Arab league's actions were unprovoked.

1917 – 1947:
Palestine was among former Ottoman territories placed under UK administration by the League of Nations in 1922. All of these territories eventually became fully independent States, except Palestine, where in addition to “the rendering of administrative assistance and advice” the British Mandate incorporated the “Balfour Declaration” of 1917, expressing support for “the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people”. During the Mandate, from 1922 to 1947, large-scale Jewish immigration, mainly from Eastern Europe took place, the numbers swelling in the 1930s with the Nazi persecution. Arab demands for independence and resistance to immigration led to a rebellion in 1937, followed by continuing terrorism and violence from both sides. UK considered various formulas to bring independence to a land ravaged by violence. In 1947, the UK turned the Palestine problem over to the UN. Read more.

1947 – 1948:
After looking at alternatives, the UN proposed terminating the Mandate and partitioning Palestine into two independent States, one Palestinian Arab and the other Jewish, with Jerusalem internationalized (Resolution 181 (II) of 1947). One of the two envisaged States proclaimed its independence as Israel and in the 1948 war involving neighbouring Arab States expanded to 77 percent of the territory of mandate Palestine, including the larger part of Jerusalem. Over half of the Palestinian Arab population fled or were expelled.

The Nakba, which means “catastrophe” in Arabic, refers to the mass displacement and dispossession of Palestinians during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. Before the Nakba, Palestine was a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society. However, the conflict between Arabs and Jews intensified in the 1930s with the increase of Jewish immigration, driven by persecution in Europe, and with the Zionist movement aiming to establish a Jewish state in Palestine.

In November 1947, the UN General Assembly passed a resolution partitioning Palestine into two states, one Jewish and one Arab, with Jerusalem under a UN administration. The Arab world rejected the plan, arguing that it was unfair and violated the UN Charter. Jewish militias launched attacks against Palestinian villages, forcing thousands to flee. The situation escalated into a full-blown war in 1948, with the end of the British Mandate and the departure of British forces, the declaration of independence of the State of Israel and the entry of neighbouring Arab armies. The newly established Israeli forces launched a major offensive. The result of the war was the permanent displacement of more than half of the Palestinian population.

As early as December 1948, the UN General Assembly called for refugee return, property restitution and compensation (resolution 194 (II)). However, 75 years later, despite countless UN resolutions, the rights of the Palestinians continue to be denied. According to the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) more than 5 million Palestine refugees are scattered throughout the Middle East. Today, Palestinians continue to be dispossessed and displaced by Israeli settlements, evictions, land confiscation and home demolitions.

The Nakba anniversary is a reminder not only of those tragic events of 1948, but of the ongoing injustice suffered by the Palestinians. The Nakba had a profound impact on the Palestinian people, who lost their homes, their land, and their way of life. It remains a deeply traumatic event in their collective memory and continues to shape their struggle for justice and for their right to return to their homes.

Not entirely true, although there were some Palestinian refugees as a result of the ongoing civil war before, the largest mass displacement happened after Israel tried to defend itself. The surrounding Arab nations, under agreement of the Arab League happened one day after Israel announced it's independence after the UN ratified the partition plan and before there was any large mass displacement of people because they never agreed to the partition plan. The Nakba happened during the war:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War

Edit: Crap, why are my links not working???