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15 Dec 2016, 12:14 am

Obama tried to interfere with Israel's election by trying to use US money to help Netanyahu's opponent win. He's not one to talk about interfering with another nation's national elections!

How do we know that Russia tried to help TRUMP? I mean, maybe he hacked it and gave Hillary that popular vote lead as a thank you for all that US uranium that she ripped off and gave to Russia.

If the Dems are worried about national security, maybe they shouldn't leave private servers lying around in barns.

Finally, in the words of a would-be first female President: At this point, what difference does it make? :lol:



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15 Dec 2016, 12:21 am

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But disloyal conservatives like Hucksterby has been singing his praises at the detriment of our elected President, especially in regard to Putin's homophobia contrasted with Obama's actions to include the LGBT community into mainstream American society.

Oh please! :roll: :roll:
The LGBT community was included in mainstream American society before your buddy Obama came along. Anything they got on account of him, real or imagined, they were destined to get anyway.

- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor


That's like saying LBJ didn't deserve credit for civil rights legislation, because it was inevitable anyway. Maybe so, but it can only happen when a particular President leads the way in either case. Maybe someone else would have signed civil rights legislation into being, maybe someone else would have pushed for the legalization of gay marriage, but it was Johnson and Obama who made history by doing it first.
By the way, with the homophobic forces of reaction, such as that led by Franklin Graham (cracker) and Mike Huckersterby, and those family values groups having such influence in red state America, LGBT rights were hardly a forgone conclusion. Today, trans Americans hardly have the acceptance of mainstream America that they deserve.


Do I really need to go in to all the ways this administration has f-cked up? If so this thread will go to s**t and end up locked. Whatever little Barry O did for your LGBT pals is paled by other things (e.g. spying on
American citizens, Arab Spring, morally questionable drone missions, Obamacare, doubled the deficit, etc...).

Why bring LBJ into it? The civil rights movement started before him and would have continued with or without him. About all he gave us was a prolonged war in Vietnam which he had no intention of winning, and he drove the south republican.

Besides, I thought you'd be boycotting me (again) after last week when you called me a bully and a troll.

- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor


Name one President you can't find fault with. Despite all of Obama's faults, he will be remembered for specific accomplishments. Even your hero, Trump, is speaking kindly of the President these days.
I brought LBJ up as an example. Maybe the civil rights movement would have proceeded without him, but not nearly as quick or with such deliberateness. Even civil rights leaders who lived through those days say as much.
No, I'm not boycotting you, Skippy. I'm parrying your thrusts and jabs.
As for your next post: why do you assume the worse and think Obama only fought for marriage equality for LGBT votes? Can't you consider the possibility that he honestly cared about a group of Americans who had been denied the right to marry who ever they love? What if someone said you couldn't love that Nazi she-wolf, Mrs Raptor?


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15 Dec 2016, 12:40 am

/\So Skippy and Angela got hitched? :D


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15 Dec 2016, 1:08 am

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/\So Skippy and Angela got hitched? :D


:lol: :lol: :lol:
That would be hilarious, but no, I'm afraid not. When pressed if he has any female companionship or not, Skippy has presented photo of a female Nazi in her SS uniform, apparently serving in a concentration camp, as his wife.


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15 Dec 2016, 3:16 am

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Cares about thier vote and that's about where it ends...

- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor


Oh, it's ever better when you recall that Obama claimed that he didn't believe in gay marriage, and only "evolved" when it became clear it wouldn't cost him votes; I believe Bill calls that sort of thing "pandering to bigots".


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15 Dec 2016, 4:29 am

Dox47 wrote:
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Cares about thier vote and that's about where it ends...

- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor


Oh, it's ever better when you recall that Obama claimed that he didn't believe in gay marriage, and only "evolved" when it became clear it wouldn't cost him votes; I believe Bill calls that sort of thing "pandering to bigots".


Much more likely, that was a matter of political expediency till the time was right, much as Lincoln claimed he was opposed to ending slavery till he had political support. I've pointed that out time and time again.


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15 Dec 2016, 5:04 am

I can't wait to see what happens if il trumpo gets too sharp with the CIA... it might get ugly in a manner similar to another president way back when...



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15 Dec 2016, 5:26 am

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I can't wait to see what happens if il trumpo gets too sharp with the CIA... it might get ugly in a manner similar to another president way back when...


I fear the bullet would just pass harmlessly from one side of his head through the other, as there's nothing inside there.


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15 Dec 2016, 6:31 am

C'mon guys, assassination? We're better than that.


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15 Dec 2016, 9:11 am

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There's been an investigation into the voting and Trump got more votes than before :lol: It has nothing to do with investigating wrong doing, they are trying to take him down because of him too anti-war.


Yeah the idea he might be on good terms with Russia instead of antagonistic, we just can't have that now can we?



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15 Dec 2016, 9:12 am

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John Podesta where a lot of the most damaging leaks came from fell for your standard phishing scheme, there was no hi tech espionage going on but rather pure incompetence.

Was it incompetence, or deliberate? I think the cold war is heating up.



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15 Dec 2016, 10:36 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
ZenDen wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
But disloyal conservatives like Hucksterby has been singing his praises at the detriment of our elected President, especially in regard to Putin's homophobia contrasted with Obama's actions to include the LGBT community into mainstream American society.

Oh please! :roll: :roll:
The LGBT community was included in mainstream American society before your buddy Obama came along. Anything they got on account of him, real or imagined, they were destined to get anyway.

- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor


That's like saying LBJ didn't deserve credit for civil rights legislation, because it was inevitable anyway. Maybe so, but it can only happen when a particular President leads the way in either case. Maybe someone else would have signed civil rights legislation into being, maybe someone else would have pushed for the legalization of gay marriage, but it was Johnson and Obama who made history by doing it first.
By the way, with the homophobic forces of reaction, such as that led by Franklin Graham (cracker) and Mike Huckersterby, and those family values groups having such influence in red state America, LGBT rights were hardly a forgone conclusion. Today, trans Americans hardly have the acceptance of mainstream America that they deserve.


Defending an oaf...how nice.

The most oppressed minority in this country is (wait for it) obviously black people...in all aspects of their lives.

But the most important thing they've been shorted on is the most important thing that could lead to their civil growth:

BETTER SCHOOLING...I doubt many would disagree. And yet, in his 8 years of freeloading, what has he done to advance learning opportunities for black people????? This scum bag will rip off the American people to the tune of 4 million dollars for a round of golf with a nobody, while he turns his back on the poor and disadvantaged. He's nothing but a selfish pig, just like the rest of them.

And trillions are added to the national debt while anyone trying to save money will find they're forced to play the stock market while Obama's Fed gives money to big business at 0% to force the stock market higher and higher. What a swine (my apologies to all the honest swine).


Funny how you conservatives damn Obama for not helping black people. When he was first elected, your leaders like Rush Limbaugh were damning him for favoring blacks. Can't win with you people.


There, you've gone ahead and done it: Now you have both of my parents spinning in their graves.

In my recollection I am the first person in my entire family, going back as far as I can remember, who did not vote for the Democrat candidate...that includes both my parents and grandparents (couldn't vote for Trump either).

When I was around 7 years old, after watching a little black kid being assaulted (and injured) by a big pig of a cracker for using the "White's only" water fountain, my parents carefully explained the equality/inequality/race relations issue to me. It made quite an impression on me and I've had many years to investigate the subject.

But you just don't get it. YOU feel that holding on to our corrupt form of unequal government, as epitomized by Obama, Clinton and the rest of the "Royal family" is somehow "progressive"? What are you thinking???? These are war mongers you promote and protect....it's as obvious as the nose on your face; they are in the business of killing people every day...don't you read newspapers or something? Don't you know Progressive means change and this is exactly what your masters DON'T want.

So please take your unjust and inaccurate "labels" and point them at yourself and the Democratic party where they belong and try to see past the "boogy man" image those (traitors), who would act against our form of freely elected government, puke out for you. These bastards are truly afraid of a Progressive candidate who might overturn the sacred "apple cart" (kind of like John Kennedy) they expect to hand down (in royal succession) to their children.

And you complain about REPUBLICANS not being Progressive...what a joke....are your shackles comfortable enough for you????? Ha, ha, ha, ha,...that's so funny.

Your comment "..your leaders like Rush Limbaugh.." shows us you seem to be caught in some kind of Democrat "time loop" and you're just using such things to create dissension. Too bad.



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15 Dec 2016, 4:23 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Even before the Trump/Putin bromance, I've noticed how American conservatives were in love with the Russian strongman. That religious fake, Mike Hucksterby, had sang Putin's praises while demeaning Obama in comparison... to a cheering crowd of social conservatives. And this wasn't an isolated case. More recently, Trump supporters have been calling Putin the better leader in comparison to their own President, Obama. What is it with the American right loving a neo-fascist strongman?


They're right though. Obama supported ISIS, Putin is fighting against them.


Obama helped out an unknowable mass of Anti-Al Assad elements we had hoped would prove to be pro-democracy. Some of them might have been what later became ISIS. It's also true that Obama's been killing them right and left with surrogate Anti-ISIS fighters, drones, etc.
The American right has been enamored with Putin years before ISIS even appeared on the radar screen. But disloyal conservatives like Hucksterby has been singing his praises at the detriment of our elected President, especially in regard to Putin's homophobia contrasted with Obama's actions to include the LGBT community into mainstream American society.


Please don't make me laugh. If you think America is attacking people and starting proxy wars because it loves democracy, then I don't even know where to start. He's also been killing innocent civilians with drones which has helped to create ISIS types. Lol, I'm sure Obama cares so much about homosexuals. I don't care about the motives of other corrupted people on the other side, Obama is a fraud and has been a horrific President.


Why not? Why shouldn't American motives for promoting free government ever be true? Consider the possibility that it's on the receiving end in Syria that screwed things up, as they didn't care to understand democratic government, but were so enthralled with radical islam. I think George W. Bush even believed he could spread free government in Iraq, but proved too naive in believing it would actually take.
And what do you mean saying "I'm sure Obama cares so much about homosexuals"? Do you question that he cares about oppressed minorities? And if so, why?



Because they aren't. America has been involved in numerous coups across the world for decades either directly or indirectly. It has other thrown democratically elected governments and put in puppet dictators and supports brutal and corrupted regimes. It is only down to money and power and to pretend they do it because they love freedom and democracy is embarrassing. I wonder what your reaction would be if Russia or Iran blew up numerous countries around you or other threw elected governments around you and said they were doing it because they love democracy and freedom. You'd just laugh I'd imagine, yet you are blind to it when America are doing it or say they're just making lousy choices. They know exactly what they're doing, though their proxy Jihadi rebels in Syria look like they are going to fail. I mean do you seriously believe that the US backed a load of organ eating, head chopping Jihadis because they love freedom and want to take on "Islamic extremists"? And you think Iraq rejected being blown to bits because they just can't deal with being 'free'?
Obama is like pretty much all Western politicians in power, he will do as he's told. He doesn't care about homosexuals. I guess he forgot his moral compass when it comes to 'oppressed minorities' who are locked in prison charged with no crime.


I never said America's motives were always pure, but neither are they always wrong.
And why wouldn't Obama care about the LGBT community? Living as a minority in America, he's sympathetic toward any other minority that has been stepped on.


Give me some examples of when you think they have been pure? You think that 'minorities' have some kind of duty to feel sympathetic towards other 'minorities'?


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15 Dec 2016, 4:27 pm

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I can't wait to see what happens if il trumpo gets too sharp with the CIA... it might get ugly in a manner similar to another president way back when...


Is that what you're hoping for?


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15 Dec 2016, 4:32 pm

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There's been an investigation into the voting and Trump got more votes than before :lol: It has nothing to do with investigating wrong doing, they are trying to take him down because of him too anti-war.


Yeah the idea he might be on good terms with Russia instead of antagonistic, we just can't have that now can we?


Definitely not good for the arms industry's profits. I think it was like 9/10 major arms companies that endorsed Clinton. A lot of people here were supporting the war machine, but they don't seem to care. Misogyny is far more serious than mass murder.


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15 Dec 2016, 4:43 pm

^^^we must pray for our enemies to see the light, not the muzzle flash. the CIA could do many non-violent things to make him behave or get him out of the way, one way or another. just look at what happened to ol' tricky Dickie. :idea: