Milo resigns from Breitbart over underage sex comments

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I hope you're right, but I have my doubts.

Milo recently said he saw himself abused. In the original clip he said he was molested and it was a good thing. He walked back his statement saying it was a coping mechanism.

When large amounts of people go place to place they tend to merge their cultural values.

Voodoo is a good example. It is s combination of Catholicism and traditional African religions. You also see that with native religions, many merged Christian ideas with them.

English is another example there was original old English, which was changed be immigration to England. Then there was Middle English, which was changed with immigratio too.

I'm not sure about this practice of demanding people reframe their own experiences to fit with the current social model. I'll take Milo's word about his own experiences, period. It seems like anyone whose experience differs from what's expected is forced to conform in what they say, and that bothers me.

I don't think we need to force everyone else in the world to meet our new standard, but should instead focus on protecting people from harm where we all agree. If we can raise awareness of, and reduce the incidence of FGM, dowry killings, and child marriage which violates local laws, we would make huge progress. Those are far more measurable and likely to become part of the public record.

Pedophiles are a serious problem, but you seem to have been sold on the idea of masses of foreign-looking pedophiles running societies around the world. If you try different sources than you have read, you may find that illusion evaporating. Sexual violence used as a weapon of war and terror is almost certainly more common, and the only reason anyone wants to bring criminals of that sort to the US is trying to repair the damage that was done to them as child soldiers. Someone has to be born broken or broken by their life experiences to do that kind of thing to another human, and people like that are the exception in every culture.

The book was called "worthless" by Raul Hilberg, who was the leading figure on Nazi holocaust studies. It was about Jews particularly, not just any innocents.

Germans has a right to be angry after WWI. It wasn't that they were just waiting for an opportunity to kills Jews and only needed encouragement. In WWI Germans were killed by the millions, had lots of their country stolen and were in terrible financial trouble. Really, the war should have been over after they'd won it pretty quickly then there'd have been no WWII.

Some societies have differing opinions on what constitutes an adult. I wouldn't call people in their own country foreign looking. When did I say sexual violence isn't used as a weapon? But forced marriage and child marriage isn't always violence. In many societies around the works it is just the way it is.

I never said pedophiles are coming to the US. In fact it used to be American pedophiles would go to other countries. I said that mass immigration from those countries in the future is a possible way of it happening.

I disagree that someone has to be broken to do those things. In some cultures a 12 year old marrying a 40 year old is the norm.

Citation needed

According to UNICEF, Africa has the highest incidence rates of child marriage, with over 70% of girls marrying under the age of 18, in three nations.[16] Niger has one of the highest rates of early marriage in sub-Saharan Africa. Among Nigerian women between the ages of twenty and twenty-four, 76% reported marrying before the age of 18 and 28% reported marrying before the age of fifteen.[83] This UNICEF report is based on data that is derived from a small sample survey between 1995 and 2004, and the current rate is unknown given lack of infrastructure and in some cases, regional violence.[84]

African countries have enacted marriageable age laws to limit marriage to a minimum age of 16 to 18, depending on jurisdiction. In Ethiopia, Chad and Niger, the legal marriage age is 15, but local customs and religious courts have the power to allow marriages below 12 years of age.[85] Child marriages of girls in West Africa and Northeast Africa are widespread.[86] Additionally, poverty, religion, tradition, and conflict make the rate of child marriage in Sub-Saharan Africa very high in some regions.[52][87]

A 2013 report claims 53% of all married women in Afghanistan were married before age 18, and 21% of all were married before age 15. Afghanistan's official minimum age of marriage for girls is 15 with her father's permission.[110] In all 34 provinces of Afghanistan, the customary practice of ba'ad is another reason for child marriages; this custom involves village elders, jirga, settling disputes between families or unpaid debts or ruling punishment for a crime by forcing the so-called guilty family to give their 5- to 12-year-old girls as a wife. Sometimes a girl is forced into child marriage for a crime her uncle or distant relative is alleged to have committed.[111][112]

The exact number of child marriages in Pakistan below the age of 13 is unknown, but rising according to the United Nations.[165] Andrew Bushell claims rate of marriage of 8- to 13-year-old girls exceeding 50% in northwest regions of Pakistan.[166]

Another custom in Pakistan, called swara or vani, involves village elders solving family disputes or settling unpaid debts by marrying off girls. The average marriage age of swara girls is between 5 and 9.[164][167] Similarly, the custom of watta satta has been cited[168] as a cause of child marriages in Pakistan.

According to Population Council, 35% of all females in Pakistan become mothers before they reach the age of 18, and 67% have experienced pregnancy — 69% of these have given birth — before they reach the age of 19.[169] Less than 4% of married girls below the age of 19 had some say in choosing her spouse; over 80% were married to a near or distant relative. Child marriage and early motherhood is common in Pakistan.[170]

I started by going to the UNICEF site, and dowloading their brochure,
https://data.unicef.org/wp-content/uplo ... le_246.pdf

Your first statistic, over 70%, is completely inaccurate. The actual figure is 25% entered a marriage before the age of 18, and 8% before age 15. This is concentrated in the poorest and most rural areas, much like the way it happens in the US. So, I'm not bothering with the rest. Where'd you copy and paste this from, btw?

I used wiki. Overall it has great info. I avoided the parts with citation needed.

The pamphlet proves my point that child marriage is the norm in some areas.

I think that 18 makes sense in the US. I don't know about imposing that specific age limit elsewhere. People in the US would probably benefit from taking on more responsibility for their own lives, and having appropriate privileges to match, provided they show their maturity, at an earlier age. We infantalize young people here, even into college, and I find it unhealthy. My own upbringing had that aspect to it, and I crashed hard at age 18 due to unpreparedness.

In other places, circumstances demand more from people sooner. The critical issue, to me, is girls and women need to be actual people, like regular people, with no differences under the law. We should apply pressure to make that a social reality, but we need to do it here first.

I'm not doing well today with my research. The pamphlet doesn't actually say either what you said, or what I said.

In Africa as a whole, the rate is about 25% but that was pure accident. In three countries, the rate is about 70%. That's what the wiki says, but the sentence construction bothers me. I read it as Africa overall, worse in three countries, rather than 70% in three specific countries, concentrated among the poorest, most rural in a place where those people are likely to be poorer and more rural than I can even imagine.

That's my basic point about your line of argument. You don't come off as a racist, but the arguments you use seem like they were written by racists, to me. I put the text of your quote into Google, and I admit I expected The Daily Stormer. That's how it sounds to me, for whatever that reveals. It just sounds like you are stirring up fear of a wave of pedophile refugees, or are passing on information that supports that view. Then I find out that information comes from the "known liberal stronghold" of Wikipedia, and my head does not literally explode.

If I may, so to speak, move the goalposts, then I have to fall back on the racism being structural in nature. We may be in the middle of a moral panic, still, on this issue. Remember the vast networks of Satanic Ritual Abusers? Pizzagate is just the latest incarnation. In a moral panic, racism can blend in very easily. I agree with protecting children and women from exploitation, but I don't want to see that admirable goal used to vilify a continent. Racists who assume that genetics convey culture would love that.

If that was really the case then it's self evident they took out their anger on countries (Soviet Union) and peoples (Jews, Slavs and Gypsies) who had nothing to do with the WW1 reparations they were forced to pay. Infact Hitler had no intention of attacking the US or Britain which is strange since they were the ones who forced reparations on Germany at the treaty of Versailles.

The Germans were simply taking advantage of military weakness and vulnerability of peoples with little chance of defending thesmelves against the Luftwaffe's "blitzkreig"

I'm totally putting that argument in my back pocket for later, CyberD

Feel free...getting back to the topic Milo, Bannon and Spencer have been using Brietbart to hoodwink the public and re-write history! this was also attempted by one of our former right wing prime minsters, John Howard, in Australia who started Australia's "history wars" where he stated his government wanted school kids to stop learning (what he coined) a "black arm band" version of white Australian history.

It's a sneaky back door way (used by right wings groups around the world) of making it appear that cowardly acts of colonial and postcolonial genocide on hapless/defenseless people can be made to appear as "historically contextual" and the perpatrators come out squeaky clean! this resonates with Brietbart which belittles the BLM movement casting all black Americans as ungrateful thugs and hoodlums stating they should get over slavery, lynchings and Jim Crow laws...

"...umpteen different genders"? There are only two, male and female. That's just a fact, it's reality, and if anyone says otherwise they're either joking or delusional.

God this is rubbish. "History wars"? This was nothing more than an attempt, by our extreme, ultra-left media (ex. the A.B.C.) to ignite controversy, and to push their warped agenda to rewrite history. Thankfully it failed, because we still had people in academia (and politics, and the media) who believed in the value of impartially examining evidence and drawing conclusions from that, rather than what many amongst the chattering classes wished were true.

"...cowardly acts of colonial and postcolonial genocide on hapless/defenseless people..."

Colonialism was, overall, good for the world. Also keep in mind that it wasn't just those dastardly whites who practiced it (ex. Umayyad Caliphate, Abbasids, Han Empire, Imperial Japan, Aztec Empire, and the Sassanians, to list just a few that immediately come to mind).