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What are you talking about?
What is this shared american identity exactly? I have never really observed anything I would say is exactly unadulterated 'american' culture most of american culture is bits of other cultures. Well unless we talk about Native American cultures but everything after that is multiple cultures mixed together.
Also isolationism is a pretty old world custom and idea.
No one said it is racist to want stability and good living standards, more like a bit racist to think only Caucasian or properly 'westernized' people of other ethnicities are more entitled to those things than those other people who come from different cultures, and speak another language. And that these 'other' people will dirty it all up.
And at least in the U.S the main people trying to force religious ideology are the alt right and and religious conservative/republicans in the government.
Again, taking literally a concept that you don't understand.
What concept don't I understand and am taking literally? Do clarify.
plus, on an aspergers/autism forum people taking things literally is something you'll have.
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A couple of reminiscences do not fill me with enormous confidence in the British approach to 'security'.
During one period in the 1970s, when the Irish Republican Army (IRA) was conducting a bombing campaign which targeted public buildings in mainland UK cities, I was heading for the exit of Manchester Central Reference Library. A security officer stopped me and asked me to open my bag. As I did so, I asked her "Am I supposed to be taking a bomb into this building or out of it?" She replied "We're not bothered about bombs, just checking you're not stealing any books from here".
In the late 1990s I had to go through a security checkpoint before entering the Foreign Office, a government building in Whitehall close to both the Houses of Parliament and Downing Street. When asked about the purpose of my visit, I told the security person (truthfully) that I was meeting someone who worked there. He didn't ask me who that was, or search my bag, just said "Okay" and let me through.....
One would like to think that things will have been tightened up a bit in the current circumstances, but I wouldn't bank on it, and pretty much nothing surprises me these days in this country.
Oh, geez----I'm soooooo glad you posted that you are okay. You're the very first person I thought-of, when I heard about this (we have others on here, in Manchester, as well), and wondered / worried that you were okay.
Those accounts you gave, regarding "security", are really bad----I sure hope y'all step-it-up, now.....
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Amen, brother----ESPECIALLY the bits about living on our dime, being obligated to them forever, Americans having rights too, not being slaves to the world, Americans not owing anybody anything, and us taking care of our own people (and, FIRST, I might add)! !
As I've said before, my stomach absolutely churned at the number of foreigners that were at the foodstamp place, the last time I needed them. IIRC, it was in the early 1990s that California voters, for instance, voted that illegals shouldn't be allowed to receive state aid, and a bunch of idiots in the federal courts over-ruled it, saying it wasn't constitutional to deny these people. AFAIK, it's only un-constitutional to U.S. CITIZENS!! Hello!?!?!
What *I* want to know is, why is it okay for other countries not to have open borders, but it's not okay for the U.S.? Also, I think one of the very first things that should be abolished, is this anchor-baby crap----that would curb a whole lotta immigration, right there!!
I am sick-to-DEATH of the so many people who come here and tell us the way we do things is wrong, and tell us we're stupid, etc..... If they don't like it here / like us, then they can GO HOME!! They're not going to do that, though, cuz their countries are too, Too, TOO crappy----so, why talk so badly about OURS!!
Also, so many people on here like to compare immigrants, nowadays, to immigrants of yesteryear (say, 20s and 30s), and I don't feel they're similar..... From what I've read about that era, the immigrants were extremely grateful to be here, and weren't speaking so negatively, so publicly, about Americans----PLUS, it's true that there weren't so many immigrants at-one-time..... According to Wikipedia, there were 30 million immigrants in 78 years (1836 to 1914), for instance, and 14 million from 2000 to 2010 (more than THREE times, as many); so, that's different, as well.....
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I know you weren't talking to me, but I wanted to comment.....
Surely, you're joking about not being able to think of any examples!! I have heard entirely too many stories about alot of friggin' U.S. celebrities going to other countries and telling them how they should do things (ie, women's rights)----and, maybe the most recent disgusting incident, IMO, was when President Obama went to England, and had the nerve to tell the Brits what he thought they should do, regarding Brexit.
And, if that's not enough..... Apparently, you've missed all the bazillions of posts / threads on here, where non-Americans are constantly telling us Americans how we should be doing things!!
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Aristophanes, I'm uncomfortable with the assumption that having people from quite different cultures immigrating would necessarily be a good thing. There would surely be big clashes. It's assumed they would respect the culture they're immigrating to. Why is that assumed?
It's also assumed that your culture isn't already good enough, and needs immigrants so it doesn't go stale. Does that mean instability and friction is a good thing? I would rather have strong stability. Why the putting-down of your culture? Why is theirs something they can't help, but yours is something to be ashamed of because it isn't good enough?
What I see is being said, is that in history immigration was a good thing, and that in order to keep a culture from going stale, having culture clashes and maybe even war would be better than that. I don't understand.
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NEW TERROR THREAT ISIS tells followers to mark start of Ramadan by attacking ‘innocents and civilians in their homes, markets and roads’ after Manchester bombing
The twisted terror group said the killing of 'infidels' in the West was 'beloved and effective'
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RUSSIA WARNING Russia warns its citizens against travelling to Britain due to another terrorist atrocity being ‘inevitable’
The travel advice was issued after UK threat levels were raised to 'critical' - the maximum possible
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DHS chief: If you knew what I knew about terror, you'd 'never leave the house'
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Better than Sweden, where large numbers of Muslim immigrants are dumped on welfare and it's considered completely beyond the pale to talk about the social problems that result (and there are many).
The Sweden Democrats have a popularity in that country far in excess of anything UKIP ever had in the UK.
Thing is, we rub along fairly well with most of the other ethnic groups here. You have some trouble with Irish Travellers and so on (because they have a well-deserved reputation for criminality and violence), and some Eastern European criminals do end up committing crimes here (which is one of the reasons why we voted to leave the EU), but even in the case of Eastern Europeans most are hard-working and are not religious fanatics. It's worth noting that some Eastern Europeans are quite a fair bit more racist than native English folk, and they sometimes say things that we wouldn't.
The problem in this case, as with the many other terror attacks, is Islam. Not Islamic or Islamist extremism, not Islamism. Islam. It all goes back to Muhammad and Allah. Muhammad didn't believe in diversity - he had the people that gave him safety massacred when he was powerful enough.
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Better than Sweden, where large numbers of Muslim immigrants are dumped on welfare and it's considered completely beyond the pale to talk about the social problems that result (and there are many).
The Sweden Democrats have a popularity in that country far in excess of anything UKIP ever had in the UK.
Well hello there stranger.

No, I'm glad of it too. It's just that article needed to be corrected. It's not remotely forgotten about.
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Actually, Bill, it wasn't the right-wing that was saying this on Twitter as I recall, but Labour councillors saying this.
I have nothing but contempt for the present British Labour Party. They are racist, economically illiterate far-left Islam-adoring cultists. Their bigotry and love of terrorism runs right to the very top.
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