Boris Johnson landslide, Corbyn quits as election leader

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Basically the formula of proportional representation + mandatory voting would spell the end of all conservative governments around the world. But I guess democracy is a dirty word to right wingers.

in the UK PR wouldn't suit both Labour or Conservatives, so the chances of it happening are somewhat slim

I guess the UK have what Marx would call "petit bourgeois" made up of a rump middle class who aspire to transcend the hoi polloi and be accepted into the aristocracy...so they vote accordingly

amuuurica also has that mess.

I imagine thousands of princess bride fans must have been livid at Prince Harry

They're liberals. So is 'Boris'.

That is untrue .

Well, this again indicates either wilful misrepresentation or complete ignorance of how elections and electorates work in Australia. While it is "True" that Melbourne and Sydney only fill one seat each in federal parliament, this is because the seats of "Melbourne" and Sydney" only take in around 105,000-125,000 people [see https://www.aec.gov.au/Enrolling_to_vot ... e-2019.pdf ]. The greater Melbourne and Sydney areas (suburbs) is also broken into regions of the same approximate size, so the 20% of the national population also fill 20% of the seats in the national parliament, giving each voter the same "power" as those who live in regional Australia.



I never stated it was a requirement that you had to live in the bush in order to be concerned about the environment. I was pointing out how there is a section of the community who are happy to set rules that affect others lives and livelihoods, while being unwilling to live under the rules they set, staying as far as possible of the areas they are trying to control and having no concern for the effects of their rules on the people directly impacted by them.

Your claims regarding people in the bush seems very like a caricature dreamed up by someone who has not lived in the country and has no knowledge of life outside of a city. All the people I know in the country have concern for the environment, as they know how their impact affects both their own, and their neighbours lives and livelihoods. In fact, the biggest threats to the environment comes from the some of the rules that are forced upon them by people with no consideration regarding the rules they make other than that they feel good for making them. For example, being unable to burn firebreaks (even though these sorts of burns have been occurring for thousands of years (Aboriginals were doing these burns years before Europeans arrived)) in order to clear the build-up of debris in order to lessen/prevent the spread of bushfires and to trigger new growth (Eucalypt seeds, for example, need the heat of the fires in order to "open" and so start growing). With regards to shooting anything that moves, for the most part it is rabbits and foxes (both introduced species) that are the general targets, and this is because they causes losses to farmers stock, as well as to the native animals. With no native predators, these animals would destroy the habitat of a large portion of out native wildlife. And as far as "if it's brown, dig it up"...There is only a small portion of Australia which is mined. Most country people have little-to-no interest in digging up their land outside of what is needed for planting crops, which is basically just turning the top layer and not removing anything, in order to allow more plants to grow.

Under your theory, maybe it should be the country people setting rules for those in the city, as those in the city have no concern for the environment, cutting down all the trees, etc. in a large area of the country, then digging up the ground and covering it in concrete and asphelt in order to prevent as much plant-life (and native animal life) as possible from growing. They then allow all their rubbish which they drop on the ground to be washed into the nearby waterways, so polluting these in turn and killing the plant and animal life living there...



So...one family in your "conservative" neighborhood not meeting the standards of your "wealthy parents" is what you base your opinion here on? From the tone of your post, it would seem highly likely that your parents were unlikely to have been conservative, nor to have participated in much to do with the community, which is likley to have a major impact on your understanding of conservative people.

I grew up in a conservative electorate on a farm around 5 mile (8km) from the nearest town (population around 150) and can recall many times when people would get together to help others who were having trouble, or even just pop over to say hello. I have since been forced to move for work and am now in a safely "Progressive" electorate. Here, no-one wants anything to do with their neighbours, with minimal contact and none of the sense of community that was present in the conservative area.

On a side note, I do wonder if it was your neighbours who had the "elitist prejudices", based on your statements made here...

You mean you didn't know.

More than £80 billion has been added to the value of Britain's biggest companies in a 'Boris bounce' since the general election.

As investors continued to cheer the Tory's crushing victory, the FTSE [Financial Times Stock Exchange] 100 index rose 2.25 per cent yesterday on its best day for a year.

This takes the total rally to 3.4 per cent in two days of trading since Boris Johnson sealed the biggest Tory majority since 1987.

Bank of England Governor Mark Carney said the chances of a No Deal Brexit had fallen after the Conservative election victory, with Boris Johnson now able to pass his withdrawal bill in the House of Commons.

Source: 'Boris bounce' sends FTSE to best day for a year: £80BILLION is added to UK economy since election landslide - as BoE governor Mark Carney says dangers from a No Deal Brexit have fallen

I mean it was something that was not put to the electorate during the build up to the referendum . If you want to go into revisionist mode , and deny that, that's up to you.

Those gains have already been reversed now that Boris plans to introduce an amendment to the withdrawal bill which removes the option for asking for an extension to the transition period at the end of 2020.

BTW, the Daily Mail is a terrible source for news. I wouldn’t even use it as toilet paper!

It was in the leaflet and people were warning about the consequences of leaving the Single Market and Customs Union. Please don't make such absurdly ironic statements. We voted to leave the European Union. Only when the result went the 'wrong way' did the propaganda start like an Orwell novel. Anyway the show is over. There's not going to be another referendum.

There is a conflict of interest in terms of land-use Vs conservation. A great example is in the last federal election when thousands of regional Queenslanders turned their backs on Labor because they thought Shorten would revoke mining rights to Adani's Carmichael Coal mine. An utterly selfish act which bought no benefit since Adani haven't hired anyone since Morrison won the election and of course country Queenslanders are happy to keep burning coal.


Not sure if you realise but the state Coalition governments and their country ministers are largely responsible for not enacting proper fire management practices which has contributed to the bushfires in NSW. Fire service chiefs across Australia have unilaterally tried to meet with your hero Scott Morrison but he is avoiding addressing their concerns and ignoring their emergency summit because that would mean he would have to raise why the coalition (including the Nationals) are happy to keep burning coal and raising the global temperature.


Open cut mining is an incredible eyesore. sustainable farming practice and mining rehabilitation is a joke. I spent my childhood in WA and remember how the mining industry spread Jarrah dieback killing half the native forest.


Do you know why mental health is a major problem in country electorates? why is youth suicide such an issue? people are isolated and lonely, farmers might have their networks (like your parents) but for people who work in regional/rural areas unless you were born there you end up isolated and alone. Don't try and glamorise some mythic country folktale that everyone is mates and they have your back...I've lived in rural areas and people are not friendly to outsiders. Kids who grow up in the country leave to the city first chance they get.



Where did I say one family? I went to an expensive private school and knew hundreds of families from all over Melbourne and they are all of the same elitist snobby ilk. I know many of them who were psychopathic bullies, selfish and self-indulgent who now hold position of power and one bloke like to murder animals for fun (he should have gone to jail) is now director of medical services. I pity his patients. In a Harry Potter world it would be exactly like the slytherin house but only worse.

My only friends in school were international students because they were at least genuine and good hearted.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-far-right-extremists-join-conservatives-support-britain-first-a9252201.html

The election was held on 12 December. So if you look at the change of the FTSE 100 since the closing on 12 December:
12 Dec --- 7216
13 Dec --- 7273
16 Dec --- 7353
17 Dec --- 7519
18 Dec --- 7525
Total increase in stock prices 309 which represents a 4.3% increase since the election. It looks from my perspective Britain is on a roll.