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Persephone29
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03 Jan 2020, 10:21 am

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^A massive part of the problem is the culture of greed amongst American medical doctors. They’re all aiming for $400K/yr+ instead of aiming to provide quality care to their patients in exchange for fair compensation & a very comfortable life. They (almost) all want to get filthy rich & are willing to watch people die rather than help them to do it. Disgusting, IMO.



That's gone out of fashion in the US, since the traveling doctors who took chickens as payment. And that is the culture of the US, we have never lied about that. People should be cursing their parents if they don't like it, not the country. We are simply doing what we have always done.

They are not interested in 'fair' compensation. They have student loan debts to pay. They are interested in the most amount of money to live well and pay off student loan debt. Now, I'm anticipating that you'll go off the rails on how education should be free. Well, it's not here.


They could repay their student loans and live a very good life on $250k/yr instead of $400k. It would also allow them to better uphold the oath they swore to do no harm.



I think that all would agree that salary and workload are relevant. It's no deal at all to work 16 hours/day.

These are all your judgments on how doctors should proceed. There is no manual on conduct entitled 'Medicine According to Goldfish.'

And the doctor must see the patient for the Hippocratic oath to apply. You can't hang the doctor for all the patients he doesn't see. When you talk smack like that, you seem just as unhinged as you claim everyone else is.


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03 Jan 2020, 10:28 am

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Why wouldn’t Americans be want better basic care for all at lower prices? It boggles the mind.

That's why they won't turn it over the US government.

They can see how current government medical programs are run.


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03 Jan 2020, 10:32 am

There is no reasoning with unreasonable people.


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03 Jan 2020, 10:39 am

The overall quality of care under a socialized medical system will probably be better for poorer people----but probably worse for richer people.

Why can't we have basic health insurance for all---with more "enhanced" options for people willing to pay for it?



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03 Jan 2020, 11:33 am

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The overall quality of care under a socialized medical system will probably be better for poorer people----but probably worse for richer people.

Why can't we have basic health insurance for all---with more "enhanced" options for people willing to pay for it?


Ding ding ding. That’s what we have here in Canada.

I have gov’t coverage. I also have Blue Cross. And if I want to pay, I can go get an MRI or have a surgery virtually instantaneously.


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03 Jan 2020, 11:36 am

And I do believe people should be able to keep their own health plans should a national health insurance plan be implemented.

One of the problems of Obamacare was that people weren't able to keep their old health plans---despite promises to the contrary.

The Obamacare options were usually worse than their own health plans.

Sometimes, they even had a deductible, that was, say, $6,000----then they had to pay 40% out of pocket after that. Those were the "Bronze" plans. Frankly, many of the Obamacare individual plans sucked.