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29 Jan 2020, 4:01 am

This whole outbreak doesn't make sense. They say it came from a meat market in Wuhan because of snakes. And now it's because of the Bats. It apparently surfaced a year ago, and they are just now responding to it. I have a feeling the casualties are higher than what is being reported. I bet this is a man made virus. The media is the snake oil salesman and the people are the gullible buyers. Don't be the sheeple, people.



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29 Jan 2020, 4:09 am

Brehus wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
So it's not from eating bats?

Chinese bioweapons labs are more dangerous than anything Saddam Hussein could dream up so why aren't they being bombed?


Could be the unclean wet market or something accidentally getting out from a Bio-Weapons lab probably will not know until someone studies the the virus closer and see if it looks modified by man.
I think it's man made.



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29 Jan 2020, 5:25 am

StayFrosty wrote:
[I think it's man made.


The thought crossed my mind the Chinese secret intelligence may have been doing animal testing on the virus and perhaps and escaped bat or monkey might have ended up on the menu of the local Wuhan diner and thus you have your ground zero



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29 Jan 2020, 5:30 am

latest predictions suggesting we might have a contagion situation
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/healt ... d1b4c2742c



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29 Jan 2020, 6:18 am

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29 Jan 2020, 9:18 am



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29 Jan 2020, 9:23 am

It's the end of the world as we know it... again.



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29 Jan 2020, 9:29 am

How many apocryphal events does this make now?



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29 Jan 2020, 9:51 am

I am thinking it is worse in China then the Chinese Government is saying but I also think the rest of the world will end up with a few case but nothing to the extent of what China is going through definately not the end times IMHO.


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29 Jan 2020, 10:14 am

I read an interesting article this morning:

Coronaviruses come in a variety of strains. Some, such as the one that’s one of the many causes of the common cold, are relatively harmless. Others, such as those responsible for SARS and MERS, are potentially lethal. The dangerous coronaviruses seem to be linked to animals. SARS may have originated in bats and then spread to humans via civets, which are eaten as a delicacy in China. MERS also came from bats but spread to humans via camels, once again, perhaps through consumption of raw camel milk or meat. It is therefore reasonable to suspect that the new coronavirus is linked to animals that are eaten. Indeed, the reason China is always likely to be ground zero for the next influenza pandemic is that millions of people regularly come into contact with livestock. As Smithsonian Magazine wrote, “Many Chinese people, even city dwellers, insist that freshly slaughtered poultry is tastier and more healthful than refrigerated or frozen meat.”

Whatever the source, it’s now been confirmed to be capable of being transmitted from one human to another. Even so, the new coronavirus will have a limited direct impact on public health. SARS appeared in 2002, spread quickly around the globe in 2003, infected 8,096 people and killed 774. Then, with the exception of a handful of cases, it mostly disappeared. MERS has infected 2,442 people and killed 842. It still lingers throughout much of the world, particularly in the Arabian Peninsula. And though the reported case-fatality rates for both seem high – 9.6 percent for SARS and 34.5 percent for MERS – bear in mind that many mild cases probably went unreported. The real case-fatality rate is likely lower.

The problem with new outbreaks is that the public and public officials alike can’t exactly wait until all the facts become clear before taking preventative measures. And it doesn’t take much for fear of the unknown to grind public transportation systems to a halt, empty out shopping centers, movie theaters and restaurants, and, most important, persuade revelers to just stay put this year during the Lunar New Year rather than join the hundreds of millions of people who take part in the world’s largest annual human migration.

For all the criticism they are receiving, authorities in Beijing are trying to address a problem that would bedevil any government. China is very large and very dense. As happened with SARS, panic would almost certainly do more damage than the disease itself. And Beijing may reasonably conclude that resorting to drastic measures may truly be in the public interest, even if they’re at odds with public sentiment. Perhaps more than any government, Beijing has given itself the power to surveil its citizenry, to shut down cities, to silence unfounded rumors on social media – all without permission. Such powers certainly could come in handy in this sort of crisis.

But by hoarding authority – by insisting on the right to micromanage the country – the CPC has raised the bar for what the public expects in response when the country is under attack, whether from foreign powers, economic forces or viral mutations. This is a problem when tight centralization has also, paradoxically, created a rigid top-down institutional culture that’s ill-suited to respond nimbly to public demand. When faced with a crisis, the machinery of the state is programmed to default to the tools it knows best. Censorship, disinformation and problem-solving by brute force are hardwired into the Chinese system, often making it at once flat-footed and prone to overcorrection. Yet, the more pressure intensifies, the more Beijing is doubling down on this model. And the stakes riding on its bet are getting higher.

There’s reason to believe the disease isn’t nearly as big a threat to public health as the one posed by the SARS outbreak in 2003, which killed nearly 800 people. Inevitably, though, the biggest political and economic effects of pandemics come from public panic and panicked government responses, not the disease itself. And given Beijing’s checkered track record for managing these sorts of emergencies over the past two decades, the Communist Party of China’s very legitimacy might just prove to be on the line.

Source: Chinese New Year 2020: The Year Of The Coronavirus


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29 Jan 2020, 10:26 am

Fear itself...



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29 Jan 2020, 10:39 am

I am personally prepared in case something goes wrong not because I am worried about virus outbreak, but because I live in Hurricane ally, so I have a few weeks of MRE's and other things because of it.


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29 Jan 2020, 11:18 am

The UK government are now holding a COBRA meeting to discuss the virus. They must be trying to divert our attention from something or other.

COBRA: I believe it stands for Cabinet Office Briefing Room A. It's where they discuss really important stuff.
Unlike Cabinet Office Briefing Room B... where they discuss stuff like the toilets aren't working. Holding a COBRB meeting just doesn't have the same impact. Sometimes I wonder if they have something really important to discuss and room A is being cleaned, they go go into room B but don't let on.


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29 Jan 2020, 11:21 am

COBR-C seems to be where they discuss such weighty issues as the cafeteria lunch menu.



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29 Jan 2020, 11:28 am

Guardian says they will quarantine all British nationals evacuated from Wuhan province on a military base, and they are going to try to persuade the Beijing Politburo to let dual British-Chinese nationals join the evacuation.



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29 Jan 2020, 11:33 am

This is a strong echo of the movie "Andromeda Strain".