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20 Feb 2020, 12:08 am

I'd LOVE to say something here but I probably shouldn't...


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20 Feb 2020, 12:09 am

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I'd LOVE to say something here but I probably shouldn't...


No, no, please! I don't hang back in terror, so why should you?


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20 Feb 2020, 12:11 am

Shabrem wrote:
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Shabrem wrote:
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I did a half assed look into that. He actually denounced Duke back in 2000. When asked about Duke 16 years later he said he would have to figure out who Duke was before making an offcial statement. Now one can either come up with a conspiracy theory for that or chalk it up to Trump not keeping track of everyone, which he has been pretty consistent with. The accusations from the left of him being in league with the KKK alt.right etc is simply insubstantial.


Isn't the KKK a fringe group?
I imagine there wouldn't be many votes in it from that area, and the political damage wouldn't be worth it.
I think Trump is politically smarter than to actively align himself to such an extremist group.


He doesn't. But it is vitally important to the democrats that he be associated with them. And also that they are seen as a gigantic threat "the US is crawling with rabid racists". That is why Kraichgauer talks about racism several times a day 7 days a week. He is basically a CNN bot.


Kraichgauer does seem to be quite politically partisan.


If I am, Ezra is as well. If I am, at least it's because I'm standing by what I consider to be morally right.


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20 Feb 2020, 12:55 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I did a half assed look into that. He actually denounced Duke back in 2000. When asked about Duke 16 years later he said he would have to figure out who Duke was before making an offcial statement. Now one can either come up with a conspiracy theory for that or chalk it up to Trump not keeping track of everyone, which he has been pretty consistent with. The accusations from the left of him being in league with the KKK alt.right etc is simply insubstantial.


Isn't the KKK a fringe group?
I imagine there wouldn't be many votes in it from that area, and the political damage wouldn't be worth it.
I think Trump is politically smarter than to actively align himself to such an extremist group.


He doesn't. But it is vitally important to the democrats that he be associated with them. And also that they are seen as a gigantic threat "the US is crawling with rabid racists". That is why Kraichgauer talks about racism several times a day 7 days a week. He is basically a CNN bot.


Kraichgauer does seem to be quite politically partisan.


If I am, Ezra is as well. If I am, at least it's because I'm standing by what I consider to be morally right.


You very clearly stipulate that you are a liberal democrat and use the pronoun "we" when talking about liberals and democrats. I have never never said am a member of any political party and I use the pronoun "they" when talking about any political party.

The reason why I have a problem with liberal democrats is their proclamation of superiority and the methods they use to purport that.



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20 Feb 2020, 1:53 am

Raptor wrote:
I'd LOVE to say something here but I probably shouldn't...


Now now...don't be scared snookums



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20 Feb 2020, 1:58 am

Shabrem wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I did a half assed look into that. He actually denounced Duke back in 2000. When asked about Duke 16 years later he said he would have to figure out who Duke was before making an offcial statement. Now one can either come up with a conspiracy theory for that or chalk it up to Trump not keeping track of everyone, which he has been pretty consistent with. The accusations from the left of him being in league with the KKK alt.right etc is simply insubstantial.


Isn't the KKK a fringe group?
I imagine there wouldn't be many votes in it from that area, and the political damage wouldn't be worth it.
I think Trump is politically smarter than to actively align himself to such an extremist group.


He doesn't. But it is vitally important to the democrats that he be associated with them. And also that they are seen as a gigantic threat "the US is crawling with rabid racists". That is why Kraichgauer talks about racism several times a day 7 days a week. He is basically a CNN bot.


Kraichgauer does seem to be quite politically partisan.


Actually what he is saying is supported by hard data
https://academic.oup.com/poq/article/83/1/91/5494625

Despite protestations and defense of Trump the numbers speak for themselves -Findings indicate that a nontrivial number of White voters switched their votes in the 2016 election to Trump, that this vote switching was more associated with racial and immigration attitudes than economic factors

This is now the third current peer reviewed article that I have posted here supporting Trump's use of racism to win the 2016 election

As i have said before science is more truthful than trolls



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20 Feb 2020, 2:18 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I did a half assed look into that. He actually denounced Duke back in 2000. When asked about Duke 16 years later he said he would have to figure out who Duke was before making an offcial statement. Now one can either come up with a conspiracy theory for that or chalk it up to Trump not keeping track of everyone, which he has been pretty consistent with. The accusations from the left of him being in league with the KKK alt.right etc is simply insubstantial.


Isn't the KKK a fringe group?
I imagine there wouldn't be many votes in it from that area, and the political damage wouldn't be worth it.
I think Trump is politically smarter than to actively align himself to such an extremist group.


He doesn't. But it is vitally important to the democrats that he be associated with them. And also that they are seen as a gigantic threat "the US is crawling with rabid racists". That is why Kraichgauer talks about racism several times a day 7 days a week. He is basically a CNN bot.


Of course the Klan are a marginalized group, and so are the multitude of other hate groups. And yet the FBI recognizes them collectively as the most dangerous domestic terrorist threat currently in America. Oh, that's right, the FBI are part of the deep state conspiracy, aren't they? :P :P :P
It's been said the new racism is denial that it's still a problem in our country. It's just that group of people with such a belief who make up Trump's base.


No the new racism is the pretense that it is totally out of control and that we need democrats running the entire government to save us from it. The new racism is the political exploitation of it by the left. And you as such a loyal unquestioning follower therefore talk about it several times a day seven days a week like someone with a pathological obsession.


From your last post - I don't think the word "racism" means what you think it means.


I believe you started this line of thinking when you said:
"It's been said the new racism is denial that it's still a problem in our country."

To me, it seems you broke the link with the traditional definition of "racism" with that statement. That is, it is once removed.
Ezras seemed to be following your lead.

If there is any confusion, I believe you created it.



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20 Feb 2020, 2:27 am

cyberdad wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I did a half assed look into that. He actually denounced Duke back in 2000. When asked about Duke 16 years later he said he would have to figure out who Duke was before making an offcial statement. Now one can either come up with a conspiracy theory for that or chalk it up to Trump not keeping track of everyone, which he has been pretty consistent with. The accusations from the left of him being in league with the KKK alt.right etc is simply insubstantial.


Isn't the KKK a fringe group?
I imagine there wouldn't be many votes in it from that area, and the political damage wouldn't be worth it.
I think Trump is politically smarter than to actively align himself to such an extremist group.


He doesn't. But it is vitally important to the democrats that he be associated with them. And also that they are seen as a gigantic threat "the US is crawling with rabid racists". That is why Kraichgauer talks about racism several times a day 7 days a week. He is basically a CNN bot.


Kraichgauer does seem to be quite politically partisan.


Actually what he is saying is supported by hard data
https://academic.oup.com/poq/article/83/1/91/5494625

Despite protestations and defense of Trump the numbers speak for themselves -Findings indicate that a nontrivial number of White voters switched their votes in the 2016 election to Trump, that this vote switching was more associated with racial and immigration attitudes than economic factors

This is now the third current peer reviewed article that I have posted here supporting Trump's use of racism to win the 2016 election

As i have said before science is more truthful than trolls


That is an opinion piece and most likely has partisan authorship.

It has been established that you post articles you haven't read. And that you also misapply scientific terms and jargon. While as an NT on an autism forum accuse us autistics of being trolls while you screw with us, insult us, and mock us.



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20 Feb 2020, 2:28 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
Kraichgauer does seem to be quite politically partisan.


If I am, at least it's because I'm standing by what I consider to be morally right.


Apparently so does Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who openly admits that morality is more important than the facts.
If this is your position also, I find it hard to reconcile that with this side of reality.



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20 Feb 2020, 2:50 am

Shabrem wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
Kraichgauer does seem to be quite politically partisan.


If I am, at least it's because I'm standing by what I consider to be morally right.


Apparently so does Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who openly admits that morality is more important than the facts.
If this is your position also, I find it hard to reconcile that with this side of reality.


What you have is a party and its members bosting of moral superiority and overall superiority in general.



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20 Feb 2020, 3:38 am

EzraS wrote:
While as an NT on an autism forum accuse us autistics of being trolls while you screw with us, insult us, and mock us.


Got to do something about your paranoia. I was referring to Raptor who wanted to jump in to this discussion...and stop with your anti-NT rhetoric.....only you and one other member have continually repeated that NTs have no place on this forum.



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20 Feb 2020, 3:47 am

cyberdad wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I did a half assed look into that. He actually denounced Duke back in 2000. When asked about Duke 16 years later he said he would have to figure out who Duke was before making an offcial statement. Now one can either come up with a conspiracy theory for that or chalk it up to Trump not keeping track of everyone, which he has been pretty consistent with. The accusations from the left of him being in league with the KKK alt.right etc is simply insubstantial.


Isn't the KKK a fringe group?
I imagine there wouldn't be many votes in it from that area, and the political damage wouldn't be worth it.
I think Trump is politically smarter than to actively align himself to such an extremist group.


He doesn't. But it is vitally important to the democrats that he be associated with them. And also that they are seen as a gigantic threat "the US is crawling with rabid racists". That is why Kraichgauer talks about racism several times a day 7 days a week. He is basically a CNN bot.


Kraichgauer does seem to be quite politically partisan.


Actually what he is saying is supported by hard data
https://academic.oup.com/poq/article/83/1/91/5494625

Despite protestations and defense of Trump the numbers speak for themselves -Findings indicate that a nontrivial number of White voters switched their votes in the 2016 election to Trump, that this vote switching was more associated with racial and immigration attitudes than economic factors

This is now the third current peer reviewed article that I have posted here supporting Trump's use of racism to win the 2016 election

As i have said before science is more truthful than trolls


What you posted is a non-sequitur. That is, it has nothing to do with what I had said.



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20 Feb 2020, 3:53 am

My point (not that it matters as you probably didn't read my post) is that Kraichgauer's position is based on actual facts rather than his being partisan or far-left

Infact your label him partisan is non-sequitur to what Kraichgauer is saying (some irony in that)



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20 Feb 2020, 4:22 am

cyberdad wrote:
My point (not that it matters as you probably didn't read my post) is that Kraichgauer's position is based on actual facts rather than his being partisan or far-left

Infact your label him partisan is non-sequitur to what Kraichgauer is saying (some irony in that)


I was replying to a post by Ezras, not Kraichgauer. Please review the sequence of events.
A position can be both based on facts and be partisan in nature. All political organizations work on this principle.



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20 Feb 2020, 4:43 am

Shabrem wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Shabrem wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I did a half assed look into that. He actually denounced Duke back in 2000. When asked about Duke 16 years later he said he would have to figure out who Duke was before making an offcial statement. Now one can either come up with a conspiracy theory for that or chalk it up to Trump not keeping track of everyone, which he has been pretty consistent with. The accusations from the left of him being in league with the KKK alt.right etc is simply insubstantial.


Isn't the KKK a fringe group?
I imagine there wouldn't be many votes in it from that area, and the political damage wouldn't be worth it.
I think Trump is politically smarter than to actively align himself to such an extremist group.


He doesn't. But it is vitally important to the democrats that he be associated with them. And also that they are seen as a gigantic threat "the US is crawling with rabid racists". That is why Kraichgauer talks about racism several times a day 7 days a week. He is basically a CNN bot.


Of course the Klan are a marginalized group, and so are the multitude of other hate groups. And yet the FBI recognizes them collectively as the most dangerous domestic terrorist threat currently in America. Oh, that's right, the FBI are part of the deep state conspiracy, aren't they? :P :P :P
It's been said the new racism is denial that it's still a problem in our country. It's just that group of people with such a belief who make up Trump's base.


No the new racism is the pretense that it is totally out of control and that we need democrats running the entire government to save us from it. The new racism is the political exploitation of it by the left. And you as such a loyal unquestioning follower therefore talk about it several times a day seven days a week like someone with a pathological obsession.


From your last post - I don't think the word "racism" means what you think it means.


I believe you started this line of thinking when you said:
"It's been said the new racism is denial that it's still a problem in our country."

To me, it seems you broke the link with the traditional definition of "racism" with that statement. That is, it is once removed.
Ezras seemed to be following your lead.

If there is any confusion, I believe you created it.


Not at all! Denial of racism is to turn a blind eye to the scourge, thus allowing it to propagate. When this is done purposefully, it can be nothing other than racism or any other sort of discrimination. And no, I'm not saying you or Ezra are racists, as I think more likely you accept the spin put on the subject by real racists posing as luminaries of the right or libertarianism.


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20 Feb 2020, 4:55 am

cyberdad wrote:
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While as an NT on an autism forum accuse us autistics of being trolls while you screw with us, insult us, and mock us.


Got to do something about your paranoia. I was referring to Raptor who wanted to jump in to this discussion...and stop with your anti-NT rhetoric.....only you and one other member have continually repeated that NTs have no place on this forum.


That's the ultimate gaslight. Accusing someone of being paranoid. My observation of you screwing with, name calling and mocking us while calling us trolls is based on years of reading your posts. I am on record as one who for years has defended NTs in areas like General Autism Discussion. The only problem I have with NTs being on an autism forum is when they routinely bully, screw with, name call and mock autistic members. And there are a hell of a lot more than two of us who feel that way. I actually get PMs from newer autistic members asking about you.



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