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15 Apr 2020, 11:33 pm

Don't have a link, but according to a comment I saw from someone living in Los Angeles: this week was predicted to be the virus peak for Los Angeles County. And as of this week they have thousands of empty hospital beds, and over 900 empty ICU beds in that county alone.


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16 Apr 2020, 1:56 am

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Don't have a link, but according to a comment I saw from someone living in Los Angeles: this week was predicted to be the virus peak for Los Angeles County. And as of this week they have thousands of empty hospital beds, and over 900 empty ICU beds in that county alone.


a wary smile........... gawd hopefully this is a good sign.


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17 Apr 2020, 2:43 am

If you want to chart your own epidemic, here's the calculator:

https://gabgoh.github.io/COVID/index.html


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17 Apr 2020, 2:55 am

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If you want to chart your own epidemic, here's the calculator:

https://gabgoh.github.io/COVID/index.html



Woohoo now I get to see if I can be as inaccurate as the official models.



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17 Apr 2020, 2:58 am

EzraS wrote:
Darmok wrote:
If you want to chart your own epidemic, here's the calculator:

https://gabgoh.github.io/COVID/index.html

Woohoo now I get to see if I can be as inaccurate as the official models.

Yes, and you can infect as many people as you wish.

Here's a very intelligent analysis of the whole status of the epidemic:

https://darkenedintellect.blogspot.com/ ... lines.html


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18 Apr 2020, 3:12 pm

"The … crisis we face is unparalleled in modern times,” said the World Health Organization’s assistant director, while its director general proclaimed it “likely the greatest peacetime challenge that the United Nations and its agencies have ever faced.” This was based on a CDC computer model projection predicting as many as 1.4 million deaths from just two countries.

So when did they say this about COVID-19? Trick question: It was actually about the Ebola virus in Liberia and Sierra Leone five years ago, and the ultimate death toll was under 8,000.


https://issuesinsights.com/2020/04/18/a ... ic-models/


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18 Apr 2020, 4:45 pm

Due to COVID19, Donald "Bailout" Trump is considering ...

- paying oil companies to do nothing (not drill their oil)
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-envir ... ude-in-the

-buying 19B in food and milk to support higher prices for farmers
https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-19b- ... 23585.html

Donald "Bailout" Trump doesn't like low prices on oil and food.


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18 Apr 2020, 5:26 pm

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... eath-rate/

What we were discussing in the other thread:

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The case fatality rate (CFR) represents the proportion of cases who eventually die from a disease.

Once an epidemic has ended, it is calculated with the formula: deaths / cases.

But while an epidemic is still ongoing, as it is the case with the current novel coronavirus outbreak, this formula is, at the very least, "naïve" and can be "misleading if, at the time of analysis, the outcome is unknown for a non negligible proportion of patients." [8]




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In other words, current deaths belong to a total case figure of the past, not to the current case figure in which the outcome (recovery or death) of a proportion (the most recent cases) hasn't yet been determined.

The correct formula, therefore, would appear to be:

CFR = deaths at day.x / cases at day.x-{T}
(where T = average time period from case confirmation to death)

This would constitute a fair attempt to use values for cases and deaths belonging to the same group of patients.



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An alternative method, which has the advantage of not having to estimate a variable, and that is mentioned in the American Journal of Epidemiology study cited previously as a simple method that nevertheless could work reasonably well if the hazards of death and recovery at any time t measured from admission to the hospital, conditional on an event occurring at time t, are proportional, would be to use the formula:

CFR = deaths / (deaths + recovered)

which, with the latest data available, would be equal to:

159,747 / (159,747 + 595,381) = 21% CFR (worldwide)

If we now exclude cases in mainland China, using current data on deaths and recovered cases, we get:

155,115 / (155,115 + 518,352) = 23.0% CFR (outside of mainland China)


This is the most comprehensive explanation I found on the death rate.

As you can see, the total deaths / total number formula is plain wrong because you're assuming the whole denominator will survive + due to the reasons explained in the link; so the death rate among the confirmed cases is much much worse than the 2-4% that keeps repeated in the media.

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Finally, we shall remember that while the 2003 SARS epidemic was still ongoing, the World Health Organization (WHO) reported a fatality rate of 4% (or as low as 3%), whereas the final case fatality rate ended up being 9.6%.



We will get the right rate only after the end of the epidemic , and after finding a mechanism to determine how many unconfirmed cases (as % of a population) we had - probably by testing their antibodies. What we have now can be a case of selection bias.



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18 Apr 2020, 9:30 pm

Darmok wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Darmok wrote:
If you want to chart your own epidemic, here's the calculator:

https://gabgoh.github.io/COVID/index.html

Woohoo now I get to see if I can be as inaccurate as the official models.

Yes, and you can infect as many people as you wish.

Here's a very intelligent analysis of the whole status of the epidemic:

https://darkenedintellect.blogspot.com/ ... lines.html


I'll wait for the movie. :mrgreen:



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20 Apr 2020, 2:07 am

Good charts of all-cause US death rate for last several years:

http://www.toptradeguru.com/?p=72407

The current 2020 season is slightly worse than 2014 and 2016, but this season, even with the Covid, is much better (lower overall deaths) than 2015, 2017, and 2018. In other words, Covid is undetectable in the general all-cause death chart.


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25 Apr 2020, 12:08 pm

Pennsylvania Forced To Remove Hundreds Of Deaths From Coronavirus Death Count After Coroners Raise Red Flags

Pennsylvania has had to remove hundreds of coronavirus deaths from its official death count this week, following questions of accuracy and highlighted discrepancies by area coroners.

The PA health department decided to include “probable” coronavirus deaths, or an assumed COVID-19-related death without testing for the virus, to their death tolls, dating back days and even weeks ago. But the death toll spike raised questions from coroners who came forward to highlight a discrepancy in death totals, which were not adding up to the number of all-cause deaths.

The scrutiny triggered multiple revisions and statements from the department, including the removal of 200 “probable” COVID-19 deaths and a claim of computer “glitching.”

“Pennsylvania started to include ‘probable deaths’ in its fatalities. As a result, the total number of coronavirus deaths grew by 276, then 360, in successive nights, almost doubling the number of deaths in the state in two days,” a Fox News report explained. ” The Pennsylvania Department of Health (DOH) subsequently removed 200 deaths from its count after facing mounting questions about the accuracy of the count.”


https://www.dailywire.com/news/pennsylv ... -red-flags


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26 Apr 2020, 7:04 pm

NYC Officials Start Adding People Who Never Tested Positive To Total Deaths From Virus

On Tuesday, New York City added a huge number of deaths to the total number of deaths caused by the coronavirus after deciding to include over 3,700 victims who had not tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have the virus because of their symptoms and medical history.

The New York Times reported, “The new figures, released by the city’s Health Department, drove up the number of people killed in New York City to more than 10,000, and appeared to increase the overall United States death count by 17 percent to more than 26,000.”


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28 Apr 2020, 3:46 am

thats how a lot of people interpret it



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28 Apr 2020, 10:39 am

lliam420 wrote:
thats how a lot of people interpret it

you there , Laddy , stand still Laddy..... ! We Will telll you what to believe !

reminiscent of ;Just another Rock in the wall;


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28 Apr 2020, 10:43 am

Now am seeing anyone who looks younger than 25 are not wearing masks ... even since the stay at home order ; HAS NOT; been lifted yet.


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