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10 Dec 2020, 9:21 am

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Dirty, filthy, stinking Germans! :evil:

Sniff sniff... I thought you have had your glands removed :chin:

That's not me!

That is the smell of the feces thrown at me.

I can hug you anyway. And comb your fur to remove that nasty bits. I will be gentle, I promise!

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Watching films of the actual Holocaust should be mandatory in a high school curriculum.

Yeah.
That is a great way to get beaten up at school, if you are part German.

Unfortunately true.
German language is still triggering for many Poles - but this can at least have some justification in the past events.

Even against children who weren't born during that time?

Language is language. It's a set of sounds. You know these experiments of connecting ringing a bell with electric shocks? Hard to un-learn.
It's rare in my generation but my mother has it and she wasn't yet born back then, either.
I actually admire today's Germans for having the courage to face their past.

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[However, it can get totally over the top. My friend's mother was bullied at school for... having a Polish last name refering to a region in Germany

Scratch the veneer of civilisation, and you find a primitive animal glaring at you.

"Lord of the Flies" stuff.

Humanity.

I believe we all need to shift from "let's fight the bad guys" to "let's make sure we're not becoming the bad guys". I see this need on WP (that was my main drive to try moderating), and in politics of various parties in various countries.
But it's hard, it requires overcoming one's own psychological defenses.

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10 Dec 2020, 9:39 am

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How is it that you were so learned that you could speak German at four years of age?

Logically, if children in Germany can manage to do so, there isn't any reason for children outside Germany not to be able to learn either, if they had friends\family to teach them - My daughter has a friend through the R.C.H. here in Melbourne with a similar medical condition to hers who was speaking German at that age through his family members having taught him.

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10 Dec 2020, 9:43 am

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I totally separate “German” from “Nazi.” The German people I have met are far away from the Nazi stereotypes. We have to teach young people about the Truth of the Holocaust. And make sure to emphasize that the vast majority of the German people wouldn’t have embraced the Nazi genocidal ideology. It should be remembered that a German woman gave the Beatle haircut to the Beatles.

that reminds me of how i said to a foreigner who thought all of us amuuuricans were trumpoleenies, and i said that just like in nazi germany there were the true believers who thought h*tl*r could do no wrong, and the rest who were basically just stuck in the $#!+ with no place to go or no practical way to counteract the evil around them without themselves becoming victimized by those psychopaths in power then.

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10 Dec 2020, 10:38 am

One's impulse is to feel sorry for Pepe, but then you realize that its hard to grasp the picture of the childhood circumstance that he is describing. So I was asking him to flesh out the picture.

Maybe he had some German aunt who taught him German at age four, or something. But then why would other four year olds make fun of him for speaking German? I didnt understand the Holocaust when I was in grade school, but I did grasp that the Germans were "the bad guys" in two of our wars. But I dont think even that level of understanding went back as far as when I was four years old. So I wouldnt have ganged up on another four year old for speaking German.

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10 Dec 2020, 10:57 am

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It's up to Pepe how much he discloses on his family story but I believe "being part German" used a few posts up is about himself.

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10 Dec 2020, 11:07 am

Bringing this thread back to it’s original intent.

'Is this what we're becoming?': Anne Frank memorial in Idaho, the only one in US, defaced with swastika stickers

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The only Anne Frank memorial in the United States was vandalized Tuesday, a distressing display of hate that has prompted a police investigation, officials said.

"It's sad that this is becoming a statement of who and what our community is," said Dan Prinzig, director of the Wassmuth Center for Human Rights, which maintains the memorial in Boise, Idaho.

The memorial includes a life-sized bronze statue of Frank, which depicts her holding her diary and peering out the window of the secret annex in which she and her family spent 761 days hiding from Nazis before they were found and sent to concentration camps in 1944.

The Anne Frank statue at the Wassmuth Center for Human Rights was one of many emblazoned with a sticker showing the Nazi insignia earlier this week.

Stickers with swastikas and the words "We are everywhere" were found affixed to the diary, and another was pasted to a statue representing the “spiral of injustice."

"Is this what we're becoming?" Prinzig asked.

Another sticker was pasted over a photo of Bill Wassmuth, the center's namesake. He was a Catholic priest who left the priesthood to focus on fighting white supremacists and the Aryan Nations, a neo-Nazi group that, at the time, was based in northern Idaho. Wassmuth died in 2002.

This is not the first time the memorial has been vandalized since its 2002 dedication. It was also defaced over a series of days in 2017 when graffiti of anti-Semitic and racist slurs caused $20,000 in damage.

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10 Dec 2020, 11:14 am

I just opened this thread and read the article. It's a good thing I didn't have breakfast. It would have came back up again. I remember seeing a section dedicated to Hitler in an antique store 15 years ago. I nearly lost my lunch that day.

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10 Dec 2020, 11:20 am

magz wrote:

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It's up to Pepe how much he discloses on his family story but I believe "being part German" used a few posts up is about himself.

That just comes to show that the 60s would have actually been a horrible time for me to have been around. There were also posters with bodily remains from the holocaust that had the word, "Shame" in German posted in English speaking countries.

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10 Dec 2020, 11:30 am

magz wrote:

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It's up to Pepe how much he discloses on his family story but I believe "being part German" used a few posts up is about himself.

Fair enough. He was part German. That should be explanation enough. Sorry you went through that in your childhood Pepe.

In the US most White people are part German. So by the time of the second world war there was no stigma attached to that. Being Japanese would get you interned. But not being German (unless you were a loud radical member of the American Bund- that vocal minority of German Americans were also interned).

But oddly a generation earlier in the FIRST World War Germans were still thought of as a distinct group, and there was some prejudice against them during that war in the US.

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10 Dec 2020, 11:37 am

japanese and german here, if only i had some eyeatalian in me i could start another world war. ok, a bad joke. :oops: this country is going insane.

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10 Dec 2020, 11:44 am

Would the Nazi's have actually tried to take the US after Europe?

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10 Dec 2020, 11:45 am

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Would the Nazi's have actually tried to take the US after Europe?

being that they had their hands full with russia, not right away.

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10 Dec 2020, 11:50 am

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japanese and german here, if only i had some eyeatalian in me i could start another world war. ok, a bad joke. :oops:

this country is going insane.

It reminds me of The Joker from The Dark Knight, where he says..."When the chips are down, They'll eat eachother." That is what will happen with the Left and the Right. The SJW's are already eating each other. And on top of that, We have these fascist lockdowns that are only pushing people to the edge. There are several Governors who were caught red handed not following their own rules. Something is definitely up with this whole pandemic. I think Covid-19 is being controlled by fearmongering for political reasons.

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10 Dec 2020, 11:51 am

auntblabby wrote:

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Would the Nazi's have actually tried to take the US after Europe?

being that they had their hands full with russia, not right away.

The Slavs were the primary victors against the Germans. I think it was the Ukrainians who took Berlin.

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10 Dec 2020, 2:21 pm

It's absolutely amazing that the only Anne Frank memorial is in IDAHO.....

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10 Dec 2020, 2:34 pm

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You were abused at...four years of age...for speaking German?

By whom?

Other four year olds?

How is it that you were so learned that you could speak German at four years of age?

And how is it that your four year old peers were so learned that they knew about and had even a crude understanding of the two world wars and the Holocaust at four years of age?

I was 4 going onto 5.
I was at the public school.
I was psychologically abused for being half German, by the teacher.

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Generally, children begin to babble from around the age of six months and say their first words between ten and 15 months (most start speaking at about 12 months). They then begin to pick up increasing numbers of words and start to combine them into simple sentences after around 18 months.

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