Anti-vaxers: "We will find you"

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If you're vaxxed, you're much less likely to catch it. If you catch it while vaxxed, you're much more likely to be asymptomatic & much less likely to need the hospital. If you're unvaxxed, you're likely to have much worse symptoms & to end up hospitalized. Hospitalization is expensive, & we're all going to be paying for that.

We have treatments now, but they are expensive. Especially compared to the vax's price. (And frankly, I really do resent having to pay for those who are voluntarily unvaxxed. If one can't take the vax, that's one thing. To refuse the social contract is just... I have no faith in my fellow Americans at this point.)

All my friends are vaxxed & still wear masks when out to protect those who aren't incase we're infected & don't realize it. We also mask out of respect for medical people who have to be around it and children who can't be vaxxed. I also still don't want to actually catch it if possible. The unvaxxed are helping it to keep spreading & mutating more than if the vast majority were vaxxed.

Society seems to have forgotten how horrible the diseases we vax for were. No vax is 100%. Ever. The main idea is to slow the spread, slow the mutation, & keep people from getting extremely sick. We don't see polio cases because when that came out everyone was around it & got vaxxed (most anyway). I don't understand how society has forgotten. (Altho apparently they used to close schools for polio & do lessons (lectures) over the radio for elementary up. No idea why we forgot how to handle closed schools, or to plan for such, either.)

We're getting our sashes replaced (the new window frames are already in), but we're not letting anyone inside (& didn't during the initial install either) without properly worn face masks. Eyes can roll, but we're paying.

Eta: I won't be replying after this. I just really needed to get it out after attending a convention that required masks & watching a few hissy-fits that occurred.

For this reply forget about protecting others be selfish.

What people expect is zero risk and you won’t get that from the COVID vaccines. This is typical with vaccines. The Polio vaccine which all but eliminated Polio is an outlier. The COVID vaccines 75 percent to 90 percent effective, the flu vaccine which nobody b*****s about 20 to 60 percent effective. As said you get less of a chance of catching COVID and if you do get it you are less likely to get seriously ill that still remains true if you factor vaccine injuries which are outliers. As mentioned earlier the long term effects of the COVID vaccines are unknown. It should be noted that there has never been a documented long term side effect from a vaccine. That is not 100 percent guarantee there won’t be for one the COVID vaccines but it means it is very unlikely.

Conclusion with a few exceptions taking the vaccine is clearly the lesser of two evils. What the refusenicks often do is chose the riskier option because they have become convinced the outlier or misinformed cases “prove” the vaccine is extremely risky and that it is being covered up. In the words of Spock “that is illogical”.

there are at least 74 million amuuuuricans that just don't grok "logical" or "prudent." these folks generally don't do nuance, to [partially] quote a former POTUS. to more fully quote a great american wit: "No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby. The mistake that is made always runs the other way. Because the plain people are able to speak and understand, and even, in many cases, to read and write, it is assumed that they have ideas in their heads, and an appetite for more. This assumption is a folly." [H. L. Mencken]

we all know what he is doing, just ignore him.

above all, it is a tragedy.

Then there's this guy who's obviously the center of sanity in the anti-vaxxer movement (sarcasm, if you didn't get it):

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-lawmaker ... 28728.html