19 Nov 2021, 6:36 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Yes, he made a "judgement call".
A *very* bad one, imo.
A *very* bad one, imo.
The officer was cited for bravery by the US senate. Are you suggesting the US senate (including conservatives) are wrong?
She was violently breaching a safe zone for Congressional members. For what purpose Pepe? It wasn't for peaceful purposes, so she got shot. I'm surprised more of them didn't get shot.
A trained security agent, backed up by a number of police officers in the very near vicinity with assault rifles against one woman on the other side of the door?
Yep, she deserved being shot and killed.
BTW, Am I not allowed to have my own opinion?
This is America after all. Errr.
This was political, and the message was sent to deter others to not act in a threatening way when politicians are nearby.
I am well aware of this.
Were the officers supposed to just let the mob lynch the elected representatives, let alone allow themselves to be murdered? Because that's obviously what was going to happen.
Yes, according to some who wanted Rittenhouse gaoled for murder.
19 Nov 2021, 6:49 pm
Kraichgauer
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19 Nov 2021, 8:35 pm
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
A trained security agent, backed up by a number of police officers in the very near vicinity with assault rifles against one woman on the other side of the door?)
There was a crazed mob she was leading carrying makeshift weapons and vocally announcing what they were going to do to the senators (e.g. hang Mike Pence). Her getting her brains blown had the desired effect of stemming their rage and pulling back as in reality they were cowards (not unlike the rabble roused in the middle ages with pitchforks).
Have you seen the videotape?
Armed police with assault rifles very close.
A door between her and the other protesters.
One unarmed woman against a trained security agent with a weapon pointed at her.
From memory, she was shot while *still* climbing through the window in the door.
Please correct me if I am mistaken.
Regarding the "makeshift weapon", please provide evidence.
If I don't hear from you, I understand.
Again, no one knew she was unarmed. And even so, she was obviously planning to still harm the people on the other side of the door, either by herself after wriggling through the hole in the door, or by opening the door from the otherside to let that lunatic mob inside to lynch the representatives and cops there.
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19 Nov 2021, 8:38 pm
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Yes, he made a "judgement call".
A *very* bad one, imo.
A *very* bad one, imo.
The officer was cited for bravery by the US senate. Are you suggesting the US senate (including conservatives) are wrong?
She was violently breaching a safe zone for Congressional members. For what purpose Pepe? It wasn't for peaceful purposes, so she got shot. I'm surprised more of them didn't get shot.
A trained security agent, backed up by a number of police officers in the very near vicinity with assault rifles against one woman on the other side of the door?
Yep, she deserved being shot and killed.
BTW, Am I not allowed to have my own opinion?
This is America after all. Errr.
This was political, and the message was sent to deter others to not act in a threatening way when politicians are nearby.
I am well aware of this.
Were the officers supposed to just let the mob lynch the elected representatives, let alone allow themselves to be murdered? Because that's obviously what was going to happen.
Yes, according to some who wanted Rittenhouse gaoled for murder.
Apples and oranges.
19 Nov 2021, 9:34 pm
19 Nov 2021, 10:08 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Again, no one knew she was unarmed. And even so, she was obviously planning to still harm the people on the other side of the door, either by herself after wriggling through the hole in the door, or by opening the door from the otherside to let that lunatic mob inside to lynch the representatives and cops there.
Every time somebody brings up Rittenhouse getting acquitted you only have to quote the officer who kept the enraged MAGA mob back and saved countless lives.
Hyperbole?
Quote:
What exactly is a hyperbole?
obvious and intentional exaggeration. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally
obvious and intentional exaggeration. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally
Well, I hope so.
19 Nov 2021, 10:10 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Yes, he made a "judgement call".
A *very* bad one, imo.
A *very* bad one, imo.
The officer was cited for bravery by the US senate. Are you suggesting the US senate (including conservatives) are wrong?
She was violently breaching a safe zone for Congressional members. For what purpose Pepe? It wasn't for peaceful purposes, so she got shot. I'm surprised more of them didn't get shot.
A trained security agent, backed up by a number of police officers in the very near vicinity with assault rifles against one woman on the other side of the door?
Yep, she deserved being shot and killed.
BTW, Am I not allowed to have my own opinion?
This is America after all. Errr.
This was political, and the message was sent to deter others to not act in a threatening way when politicians are nearby.
I am well aware of this.
Were the officers supposed to just let the mob lynch the elected representatives, let alone allow themselves to be murdered? Because that's obviously what was going to happen.
Yes, according to some who wanted Rittenhouse gaoled for murder.
Apples and oranges.
I bet I can predict what position you take on *any* political news event.
19 Nov 2021, 11:26 pm
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Again, no one knew she was unarmed. And even so, she was obviously planning to still harm the people on the other side of the door, either by herself after wriggling through the hole in the door, or by opening the door from the otherside to let that lunatic mob inside to lynch the representatives and cops there.
Every time somebody brings up Rittenhouse getting acquitted you only have to quote the officer who kept the enraged MAGA mob back and saved countless lives.
Hyperbole?
Well give the police their due, they did a sterling job on Jan 6
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... led-a-hero
19 Nov 2021, 11:39 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Again, no one knew she was unarmed. And even so, she was obviously planning to still harm the people on the other side of the door, either by herself after wriggling through the hole in the door, or by opening the door from the otherside to let that lunatic mob inside to lynch the representatives and cops there.
Every time somebody brings up Rittenhouse getting acquitted you only have to quote the officer who kept the enraged MAGA mob back and saved countless lives.
Hyperbole?
Well give the police their due, they did a sterling job on Jan 6
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... led-a-hero
Some people were convinced there was going to be a coup in America.
I laughed at that too.
I was right that it wasn't going to happen, btw.
20 Nov 2021, 12:04 am
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Again, no one knew she was unarmed. And even so, she was obviously planning to still harm the people on the other side of the door, either by herself after wriggling through the hole in the door, or by opening the door from the otherside to let that lunatic mob inside to lynch the representatives and cops there.
Every time somebody brings up Rittenhouse getting acquitted you only have to quote the officer who kept the enraged MAGA mob back and saved countless lives.
Hyperbole?
Well give the police their due, they did a sterling job on Jan 6
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... led-a-hero
Some people were convinced there was going to be a coup in America.
I laughed at that too.
I was right that it wasn't going to happen, btw.
There was no centralised planning from the mob. Kind of like teenagers egging each other on without thought of what happens if they get in.
20 Nov 2021, 5:20 am
20 Nov 2021, 5:41 am
Matrix Glitch wrote:
If you're looking though the window of a door, and see guns pointed at you, you're most likely going to get shot while trying to break through it.
If you go chasing after and attacking someone who has a riffle, you're most likely going to get shot.
If you go chasing after and attacking someone who has a riffle, you're most likely going to get shot.
Would love to have seen QAnon Shaman stick his horned head through the glass window instead of Ashli Babbitt
20 Nov 2021, 5:53 am
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
If you're looking though the window of a door, and see guns pointed at you, you're most likely going to get shot while trying to break through it.
If you go chasing after and attacking someone who has a riffle, you're most likely going to get shot.
If you go chasing after and attacking someone who has a riffle, you're most likely going to get shot.
Would love to have seen QAnon Shaman stick his horned head through the glass window instead of Ashli Babbitt
You'd love to see his "brains splattered". Charming.
20 Nov 2021, 5:36 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
If you're looking though the window of a door, and see guns pointed at you, you're most likely going to get shot while trying to break through it.
If you go chasing after and attacking someone who has a riffle, you're most likely going to get shot.
If you go chasing after and attacking someone who has a riffle, you're most likely going to get shot.
Would love to have seen QAnon Shaman stick his horned head through the glass window instead of Ashli Babbitt
Let the hatefest continue.
20 Nov 2021, 5:39 pm
Matrix Glitch wrote:
If you're looking though the window of a door, and see guns pointed at you, you're most likely going to get shot while trying to break through it.
If you go chasing after and attacking someone who has a riffle, you're most likely going to get shot.
If you go chasing after and attacking someone who has a riffle, you're most likely going to get shot.
Yep, by that particular guard.
I suggest people avoid him in future.
He has a teeny weeny problem with overreacting.
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20 Nov 2021, 6:04 pm
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Yes, he made a "judgement call".
A *very* bad one, imo.
A *very* bad one, imo.
The officer was cited for bravery by the US senate. Are you suggesting the US senate (including conservatives) are wrong?
She was violently breaching a safe zone for Congressional members. For what purpose Pepe? It wasn't for peaceful purposes, so she got shot. I'm surprised more of them didn't get shot.
A trained security agent, backed up by a number of police officers in the very near vicinity with assault rifles against one woman on the other side of the door?
Yep, she deserved being shot and killed.
BTW, Am I not allowed to have my own opinion?
This is America after all. Errr.
This was political, and the message was sent to deter others to not act in a threatening way when politicians are nearby.
I am well aware of this.
Were the officers supposed to just let the mob lynch the elected representatives, let alone allow themselves to be murdered? Because that's obviously what was going to happen.
Yes, according to some who wanted Rittenhouse gaoled for murder.
Apples and oranges.
I bet I can predict what position you take on *any* political news event.
It wasn't the same sort of situation. Rittenhouse put himself in that situation with his gun, whereas the officer who shot that crazy chick was there to do his job.
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