Homosexuality is linked to genetics- evidence found

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This goes to show that homosexuality has always been a part of nature, something that organized religion has always had a problem with, they make stuff up and throw a fit if they are told that they might be wrong.

im suggesting that scientific research is doctored to fit the agenda of the ruling elite.

which one?

most of it.

Well, this thread has certainly taken a turn for the obscure.

many past serial criminal psychopaths have had a domineering mother (usually abusive) with a distant (sufficiently absent) father.

if parenting had a genuine influence, it would be more likely via a attentive affectionate father and an absent and socially-distant mother.


Genetically, the female relatives of gay men are more likely to have more offspring, compared to the female relatives of straight men. it's as if male homosexuality is caused by genes that promote fertility, reproduction and/or child-rearing in women.

Also of note is women's sexual orientation is usually more "flexible" than men's orientation, straight women are more likely than men to have had a same-sex encounter in their past and can be more likely to feel "bi-curious". I'm not saying that women's sexual orientation is more due to nurture over nature compared to men, rather I would not be surprised if the genes responsible for female homosexuality are different to the genes responsible for male homosexuality.

Norman Bates comes to mind ...

Just thought I'd toss in my two cents. And it comes in the form of a question. How can homosexuality be genetic? Because, bottom line, gay people do not reproduce. They don't pass on their genes, end of story. If there was a "gay gene" it would die out before it ever got started. Isn't that what natural selection is all about? It simply can't be genetic. So it's either behavioral, or some kind of defect. There is no rational way to explain why a person might choose to be gay, unless they became convinced that they were, and believed that they didn't have a choice, so they convinced themselves that they like it and... I dunno where I'm going with this. But bottom line, it's not friggin' genetic. Genetics determine your eye color and how tall you are, not how you think. C'mon people!

Are you suggesting that homosexuality is learned? Is it a choice?

You are clearly and idiot.
My partner and I have 2 sons and 4 grandchildren.
Obviously we "reproduce".
Now sit down and shut up.

NQ, if a gay man has p.v. sex with a woman, would he not be more accurately called "bisexual?"

If you & your partner are both men, I fail to see how you can procreate with each other.

But then again, I'm a breeder idiot, so what do I know?

No. Sex with the opposite sex simply becomes a physical action. Let's not confuse the mechanical act of sex with the intimacy of making love.

Obviously. But no one here said anything about procreating "with each other". I know dozens of lesbians and gay males that have had children together, either invitro or more naturally. Again, it's just a physical thing- an action, not unlike masturbation.

No, I've read many of your posts and you are not among my list of breeders from this site.

I just want to be clear: A gay man or woman can perform straight sex. That does not make them straight or "bi".

What I don't understand is why you as a gay man would be opposed to the label of "bisexual."

When a guy says, "I'm not gay but the guys I have sex with are," what does this really mean? If he isn't gay, why does he have gay sex?

If I say, "I'm not a murderer but the people I kill always end up dead," what am I really saying?

What about correlation not implying causation? Honestly, I was expecting a stronger "link" in this thread than in the OP.

I can't imagine how you could copulate with someone who doesn't excite you sexually. If I'm not attracted to women, I'm not attracted to women. If I'm not attracted to women, how can I achieve erection and ejaculation in order to plant my seed in her belly?

It's not that hard to get an erection (oh wow, I just realized how that sounded. No pun intended ), and it doesn't matter if you're attracted to the person you're having sex with or not, if you're having sex you're still going to ejaculate. It doesn't matter if someone holds you at gunpoint and gives you a handjob completely against your will, if the action is happening down there, naturally you're going to ejaculate. As NQ has said, there's a fine line between screwing and making love.