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14 Mar 2020, 10:13 am

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I mean “regular” threads.


So do I.



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14 Mar 2020, 10:15 am

Walmart was busy and I saw no face masks.
Food was plentyful,but no sanitizer.


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14 Mar 2020, 10:16 am

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I think we are far enough into this pandemic, so I will make the following prediction:

T-60

In sixty days, this coronavirus pandemic will be essentially over in the U.S. There may be a few stragglers but it will be over. That would put it at 13 May 2020.



I hope you are right. The predictions in my part of the world are far more bleak. I hear you all are going to restaurants and coffee shops and I am concerned. 15 mins maximum in each store 3 meter distance from people. These are our instructions. Only go out when absolutely necessary. My countrymen are not hysterical, we live happily in an emergency situation constantly so we take government instructions
very seriously because they are always based on calm rationale and expert opinions. They say "stay home" we do as we are told.


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14 Mar 2020, 10:18 am

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Fights breaking out in our local Melbourne Cosco and shopping centres over imposed restrictions on things like trolleys. Apparently trolleys make people overstock.

Madness....even gluten free items are sold out.


fake cough and watch everyone scatter like cockroaches in the light.

easy way to make your way through crowds


They are arresting people for coughing, sneezing and having a runny nose
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 94876.html

More of that darn licking.Why can’t people keep their tongues in their mouths where they belong.


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14 Mar 2020, 10:30 am

First Corona death in Manhattan, NY, 82 year old lady, may she rest in peace.


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14 Mar 2020, 10:47 am

vermontsavant wrote:
Walmart was busy and I saw no face masks.
Food was plentyful,but no sanitizer.


There is always a plan B for sanitizer. Go buy an empty travel bottle and fill it with a bit of the cheapest rotgut liquor in the liquor store.



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14 Mar 2020, 11:06 am

Bravo5150 wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
Walmart was busy and I saw no face masks.
Food was plentyful,but no sanitizer.


There is always a plan B for sanitizer. Go buy an empty travel bottle and fill it with a bit of the cheapest rotgut liquor in the liquor store.
That's actually a good idea.

I once knew a guy who has an absesed tooth but no dental insurance.So he gargled with liqueur until the nerves in the tooth died out.


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14 Mar 2020, 11:07 am

I think most of us it will catch it and be fine but that being said my opinion why we need more testing and people need to be a little scared about the virus

a sudden boom in cases can cause the hospitals gets overwhelmed We have a lot of older people and people with underline diseases they a lot more vulnerable to the disease and can not take a vaccine like they do for the Flu if there is a sudden boom there will not be enough hospital beds to treat them even if they don't go out likely someone not taking it seriously in the family would get it and bring it to them The USA only has 2.8 Hospital Beds per 1000 people and only 20 ventilators per 100,000 people

A sudden Boom would result in a lot more deaths because we simple don't have the rooms / equipment to treat a bunch of older people and people with underline conditions all at once

aka Italy has overwhelmed Hospitals higher death rate and they have more Hospital beds then we do per 1000 people

People should be scared enough not to go to large events and to avoid close contact with people work from home if possible
If we avoid a sudden boom in cases and flatten the curve we should be fine.


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14 Mar 2020, 11:10 am

jimmy m wrote:
I think we are far enough into this pandemic, so I will make the following prediction:

T-60

In sixty days, this coronavirus pandemic will be essentially over in the U.S. There may be a few stragglers but it will be over. That would put it at 13 May 2020.


Personally I don't think enough is known about this virus for me to be that optimistic. Some viruses are not only incurable, they remain in the person for life. Herpes viruses, HIV come to mind. Yes, the common cold is a relative of Covid-19, however there are reports out of China where numerous people "recovered", tested negative only to test positive and get sick again right after "recovery". Theories include:

1) Maybe they never recovered and the negative test results were inaccurate and they had the virus the whole time.
2) Maybe the they didn't fully recover from the virus and it mutated so quickly that their antibodies which almost knocked out the virus couldn't recognize the new mutation enough to prevent them from getting sick.

What if this virus stays in the body like herpes or HIV and mutates so rapidly that the body can't fully eradicate the virus?

Yet schools in my state remain open. Explanations given by our department of education include:

>Children are at low risk....What about their parents and grandparents they bring the virus home to?
>Kids will just congregate in groups on their own if schools are closed.
>Many kids won't eat properly if not in school. Poor nutrition.....This virus is literally life or death to certain people. Poor nutrition?
>"Many" (direct quote) parents are healthcare workers. Kids out of school that can't be left alone means healthcare workers out of the workforce.
>Education is a core function of our society and would be very disruptive to stop.

I emailed the governor in my state urging that the right thing be done and that schools be closed. Bottom line in my opinion: We don't know enough about this new disease that literally no one on the planet has immunity to.



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14 Mar 2020, 11:39 am

Dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t.

We woke up too late, are inept and thus in a few weeks it will be 1918 again but worse because we don’t have the social cohesion of a of a century ago. Everybody will be blamed except the person staring back at you in the mirror.

The outbreak turns out not to be not all that unusual. Coronavirus is remembered as the Y2K bug is today fake news, all hype. You want to argue that the mitigation and containment measures prevented disaster, good luck with that. Do you hear anybody pointing out the truth that Y2K bug disasters were preventing by years of programmers hard work, do ya? Another pandemic threat comes, warnings are given and laughed at leading to actual disaster.


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14 Mar 2020, 11:50 am

jimmy m wrote:
I think we are far enough into this pandemic, so I will make the following prediction:

T-60

In sixty days, this coronavirus pandemic will be essentially over in the U.S. There may be a few stragglers but it will be over. That would put it at 13 May 2020.


Hope you are right as that would make it at the shorter end of most expert predictions.

UK govt have said they believe our peak is somewhere between 70-98 days time.



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14 Mar 2020, 11:57 am

jimmy m wrote:
I think we are far enough into this pandemic, so I will make the following prediction:

T-60

In sixty days, this coronavirus pandemic will be essentially over in the U.S. There may be a few stragglers but it will be over. That would put it at 13 May 2020.


I will bet your left testicle that you are correct. :wink:

BTW, As I have said previously, the world is overreacting and has gone nutz.
Same deal with climate change. Nature of the human beast to panic about the unknown.

People generally didn't talk about the hundreds of thousands of people who die of influenza each year until this recent coronavirus scare.
The hysteria over toilet paper is hysterical and will probably provide comical memes for some time to come.
At least something good will come out of it. :mrgreen:

China seems to be on top of the situation already.
For the vast majority of people, the symptoms will be relatively mild.
Just stay away from older people and things should be fine.

In a year's time, most people will probably have forgotten their absurd behaviour and will be preparing for the next apocalypse.
Rinse and repeat.
Silly humans. :mrgreen:



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14 Mar 2020, 12:07 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t.


I am not going to lose any sleep over it.
Just take sensible precautions.
Panic when it is time to panic.
Plenty of time to angst about it after you are dead, if it comes to that. :mrgreen:



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14 Mar 2020, 12:13 pm

I think one cost that is going to come whether the virus is at the worst end of the scale or not is the economic cost. Many businesses in europe now effectively being forced to run at low levels or even not running at all by the restrictions put on people and also just the reaction from society.

That kind of thing doesn't have to go on long at all before companies have to make tough decisions.



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14 Mar 2020, 12:17 pm

I wouldnt mind if the man who made false allegations against me gets it (not dies of it but enough that he gets perspective n regrets lying for the sake of money n then when he is recovered he drops the false claims)


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14 Mar 2020, 12:19 pm

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I think one cost that is going to come whether the virus is at the worst end of the scale or not is the economic cost. Many businesses in europe now effectively being forced to run at low levels or even not running at all by the restrictions put on people and also just the reaction from society.

That kind of thing doesn't have to go on long at all before companies have to make tough decisions.


Absolutely.
It is going to be difficult for many short term, but once the worst is over, there should be a considerable bounce back, economically speaking.
So sayeth some of the financial experts.
I'm banking on it. ;)