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02 Mar 2017, 6:21 am

EzraS wrote:

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At least there was a point to the Obama birth certificate conspiracies. this is a wild goose chase into nothing. Partisans really need to get over the fact that they lost an election and to stop deflecting all responsibility for why they lost, there paranoid delusions shouldn't be entertained.

No, there was nothing to Obama's birth certificate, save deliberate delusions by racists.

There was at least a birth certificate in question which Obama eventually released, there is zero evidence of any connection at all between Trump/Russia. It's completely baseless in it's premise, it's just a desperate attempt at rationalizing such an embarrassing loss without accepting any of the blame of their own. The Russians are totally why Hillary abandoned campaigning in the battleground midwest and was wasting time/money running up the score in huge media markets or chasing dreams in places in like Arizona/Texas/Georgia. At the very least they should fall on their swords as total incompetents.

If there's nothing to the Russian/Trump story, why was Flynn fired, and why is Putin's American fixer and former Trump advisor, Paul Manifort, in hiding?

Having to ask why indicates there's still only speculation, suspicion and innuendo to work with. But nothing actually confirmed. It's all still up in the air like vapor.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

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02 Mar 2017, 7:19 am

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Lintar wrote:

My mistake. I thought you mean't... you know, those other newspapers. :oops:

No worries.

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Questions about the contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials have now embroiled the nation’s highest law-enforcement official.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions was twice asked by the Senate Judiciary Committee about contacts with Russian officials during his confirmation hearings in January, and on neither occasion, did he detail any contacts. But The Washington Post reported Wednesday night that Sessions, then an Alabama senator, had in fact spoken twice with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, during the 2016 presidential election.

The Atlantic: Jeff Sessions Faces Questions About His Contacts With Russia Trump’s attorney general talked twice with the Russian ambassador during the campaign. Can he still oversee investigations that reportedly include his own conduct?

This makes me think of the McCarthy hearings from the 50's.

More like the Nixon impeachment.

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02 Mar 2017, 7:43 am

Maybe in your wildest dreams, people in reality don't pay head to paranoid Russian delusions

it's not a crime to want better relations with Russia no matter how much the Democrats and deep state fascists cry about it, being a traitor most definitely is however

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02 Mar 2017, 8:50 am

Sessions lied under oath about contacts with Russians while he was an adviser to the Trump campaign.

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02 Mar 2017, 9:29 am

Even if the Trump Administration has been bought by Russians, influence outside of that is minimal.

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02 Mar 2017, 9:31 am

But the very fact that a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT influenced the election is a very troubling development.

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02 Mar 2017, 10:24 am

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But the very fact that a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT influenced the election is a very troubling development.

Obama and Clinton had many more connections to foreign governments, that's why the whole global order they created is mourning their loss like North Koreans at the loss of the Dear Leaders. Trump didn't run a big money campaign, he didn't take in millions of foreign donations, that was all the other side while Trump's support was truly a people's movement.

Trump has never made any illusions about his of intentions of rapprochement with Russia, there is nothing illegal about this and it would make 100% sense for Russia to be supportive of his candidacy in this light so there is nothing insidious about it. Allegations of business interests are baseless, these conspiracy theories are motivated purely out of their hate not allowing themselves to accept defeat in a democratic election. The president can't have conflicts of interests, that has been the law in this country since it's founding. This is just a partisan witch hunt by the career criminals who see their power slipping away and a horrified at the prospect of their grave crimes coming to light.

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02 Mar 2017, 11:16 am

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But the very fact that a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT influenced the election is a very troubling development.

I strongly agree.

People need to put their hatred of Democrats aside and realize Russia DID help Trump win. Trump and his scum in DC right now are wrecking things. It's pretty clear they want to help the rich elite+big oil, no one else. They are destroying clean water acts, endangered species acts and much more.. so they can keep drilling for more oil for more profits. But there is several oil spills in USA not even cleaned up! So sickening.

In my view- most people that support Trump at this point will be woken up when things start affecting them. That wall you wanted so bad? You WILL be paying for it- when groceries and other things from Mexico go up. I highly doubt all of these "Make America Great, buy only American" people really do stick with buying America. Hell.. you look at Trump and his family- they wear how many clothes not even made in USA! Ivanka's crap she sells is made mostly overseas! So besides being lying corrupt rich elite, they are hypocrites. Grocery prices going up wont affect many people- so they will shrug and move on with their lives. Poor people will be suffering even more, but the rich and other ignorant people still wont care. Their mindset has almost always been "get a job you lazy people".

It's sickening how the poor and sick are treated in USA. People act like Trump and current congress will help.. but they honestly wont. Just look at the garbage they have passed so far.

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02 Mar 2017, 1:08 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

But the very fact that a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT influenced the election is a very troubling development.

If you mean the so called hack, there's no actual proof the Russian government had anything to do with it.
And no evidence that the leaked emails had any influence on the election.

Like I keep bringing up, before the Russian"hack" angle came into play, Hillary Clinton categorically directly emphatically blamed James Comey of the FBI for her loosing the election.

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02 Mar 2017, 2:07 pm

EzraS wrote:

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But the very fact that a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT influenced the election is a very troubling development.

All of our intelligence agencies agree Russia was meddling in our election. And you're wrong on the timing. Hillary mentioned Russia's influence during the last debate, well before the Comey letter.

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02 Mar 2017, 2:14 pm

EzraS wrote:

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But the very fact that a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT influenced the election is a very troubling development.

Considering how many times Trump and his surrogates cited WikiLeaks in the final weeks of the campaign it's laughable to say that had no effect. Just look at the history of this forum and see how many times Trump supporters brought up WikiLeaks.

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02 Mar 2017, 3:13 pm

EzraS wrote:

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But the very fact that a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT influenced the election is a very troubling development.

I have to imagine that if the shoe was on the other foot, you guys on the right would be demanding treason trials by now.

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02 Mar 2017, 3:20 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

EzraS wrote:

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But the very fact that a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT influenced the election is a very troubling development.

I have to imagine that if the shoe was on the other foot, you guys on the right would be demanding treason trials by now.

Considering that they exploited Benghazi for years to try to hurt Clinton, it's suspicious that they don't have the same desire for answers over Trump's botched Yemen raid. The hypocrisy of these Republicans is fully out in the open now. They're not even trying to hide it anymore.

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02 Mar 2017, 4:17 pm

Russian Influence! I have not heard such nonsense since the MacCarthy days we tail gunner Joe alleged there were 345 Soviet agents embedded in the State Department

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02 Mar 2017, 4:18 pm

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Globe and Mail: ‘We all need answers’ on Trump team’s Russia contacts: George W. Bush WASHINGTON — The Associated Press

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But, Bush added, “I think we all need answers ... I’m not sure the right avenue to take. I am sure, though, that that question needs to be answered.”

We all need answers on why this parasite is still a free man? Why did he lie about 9/11? Where were the media to keep him and his pals "in check" when they parroted their lies about 9/11 and the Iraq war? What the hell is he talking about "fight Islamic State"? The US funded them. Haha, if the West had real independent media he would never have won the election and also we'd never go into the wars that him and his pals crave. The man is a moron and a terrible liar.

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02 Mar 2017, 4:19 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

EzraS wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

No, there was nothing to Obama's birth certificate, save deliberate delusions by racists.

If there's nothing to the Russian/Trump story, why was Flynn fired, and why is Putin's American fixer and former Trump advisor, Paul Manifort, in hiding?

Having to ask why indicates there's still only speculation, suspicion and innuendo to work with. But nothing actually confirmed. It's all still up in the air like vapor.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Not true.

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