18 Aug 2017, 9:24 am
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I'm not sure if you were alluding to original sin.
Yes, figuratively speaking. I'm alluding to how a lot of people act like the crimes of some white people from way back are the crimes of white people today. From more "constructive" channels (though I'm not sure I should call any of it constructive really) I've seen statements about how everyone who has white skin today has a responsibility to deal with any problems "caused" by past white people, while other less constructive channels are saying stuff like that white people should just be removed from everything because they're inherently bad (using past atrocities as "proof").
Though I don't remember the source of that statement, one I have seen several times that's stuck with me as the most extreme is "the only way to end racism is to end white people" (which is of course ridiculous, because good luck removing that flaw from human nature no matter the race.. Not to mention the statement itself is racist
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18 Aug 2017, 10:36 am
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cyberdad wrote:
I'm not sure if you were alluding to original sin.
Yes, figuratively speaking. I'm alluding to how a lot of people act like the crimes of some white people from way back are the crimes of white people today. From more "constructive" channels (though I'm not sure I should call any of it constructive really) I've seen statements about how everyone who has white skin today has a responsibility to deal with any problems "caused" by past white people, while other less constructive channels are saying stuff like that white people should just be removed from everything because they're inherently bad (using past atrocities as "proof").
Though I don't remember the source of that statement, one I have seen several times that's stuck with me as the most extreme is "the only way to end racism is to end white people" (which is of course ridiculous, because good luck removing that flaw from human nature no matter the race.. Not to mention the statement itself is racist
).Gazi Kodzo (Black Hitler) actually has a following of white guilt ridden morons, one of whom is his boyfriend:
The funny thing about this is that the barista is more amused than anything else
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18 Aug 2017, 10:31 pm
xDominiel wrote:
I've seen statements about how everyone who has white skin today has a responsibility to deal with any problems "caused" by past white people, while other less constructive channels are saying stuff like that white people should just be removed from everything because they're inherently bad (using past atrocities as "proof").
In Australia we have gone through a process (still ongoing) to say sorry to the original inhabitants (aborigines). It's not about guilt (as white supremicists like to invoke) it's about taking responsibility as we have inherited the "spoils" of what past white people did
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Though I don't remember the source of that statement, one I have seen several times that's stuck with me as the most extreme is "the only way to end racism is to end white people" (which is of course ridiculous, because good luck removing that flaw from human nature no matter the race.. Not to mention the statement itself is racist ).
).Again invoking extreme angry and uneducated views from the African American community is not constructive. Frankly nobody on either side of the proverbial fence listen to such people
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19 Aug 2017, 11:41 am
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xDominiel wrote:
I've seen statements about how everyone who has white skin today has a responsibility to deal with any problems "caused" by past white people, while other less constructive channels are saying stuff like that white people should just be removed from everything because they're inherently bad (using past atrocities as "proof").
In Australia we have gone through a process (still ongoing) to say sorry to the original inhabitants (aborigines). It's not about guilt (as white supremicists like to invoke) it's about taking responsibility as we have inherited the "spoils" of what past white people did
Why should YOU "say sorry" for what "past white people did"? Don't get me, wrong, if I, PERSONALLY, hurt someone, I'd be fallin' all over myself, apologizing----but, I'll be dog-gone if I'm gonna apologize for something "past white people" did!! IMO (in regard to the American "slave issue"), that's not only ridiculous, because no person, alive today, was a slave owner, back then----it's also been PROVEN, IMO, that it doesn't do any good, because then people will just be whining about, something ELSE!! When does it END?
I'll tell you where it ends..... IMO, it only ends when people STOP apologizing (and, that includes displays of White Guilt). I used to "wear" White Guilt----but, then I got extremely sick-and-tired, of it, and started standing-up to black people who whined, discriminated against us/me, and putting us/me, down; and, as I've said, before, guess what happened? Black people had WAAAAAY more respect, for that!! It is, IMO, human nature, I guess, to not respect people, one can walk all over----and, IMO, white people who "wear" White Guilt, like a badge of honor, or something, are, in essence, allowing black people to walk all over them.
@xDominiel: GOOD, for YOU, for considering ALL angles, of this issue!!
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xDominiel wrote:
Though I don't remember the source of that statement, one I have seen several times that's stuck with me as the most extreme is "the only way to end racism is to end white people" (which is of course ridiculous, because good luck removing that flaw from human nature no matter the race.. Not to mention the statement itself is racist ).
).Again invoking extreme angry and uneducated views from the African American community is not constructive. Frankly nobody on either side of the proverbial fence listen to such people
Again, you're speaking matter-of-factly about something, of which you know, bascally, NOTHING!!
Somewhere, on one of these "race threads", I mentioned that there's often a black, male "preacher", who'll be standing at the front of the bus, preaching about "social issues", and how he feels that black people have the wrong idea, about alot of things..... There have been, however, WAAAAAY more of these "preachers" (sometimes, black women), who have preached-about, how HORRIBLE WHITE people, are----and, more-than-once, I've heard that phrase "the only way to end racism is to end white people"; and, more-than-once, I've gotten the feeling that it was said, SPECIFICALLY, cuz I was the only white person on the bus, and they were giving me "a message", to take-back to "my" people (white people)----and, considering each time this has happened (again, more-than-once), NO one told them to shut-up, or whatever, and were nodding their head, in agreement, and adding their OWN comments, that doesn't sound-like, to ME, that "no one listens to such people".
Please, PLEASE stop speaking so matter-of-factly, regarding issues in the U.S.----cuz, you DON'T know----and, IMO, even some of the white people on here, who live in Whiteville, U.S.A, DON'T know. That's why I speak, so often, about race issues / relations, in the U.S., because I feel extremely passionate about the importance of people hearing another side, of the story (because I DON'T live in "Whiteville").
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That's exactly right, about Morgan Freeman. The very first time I heard him say, something like: "I'm not African-American----I'm AMERICAN", he got big points, from ME----BIG points!!
As for people calling him, a "coon": I don't think I've ever heard, that----but, I DO agree that there's black people, out there, who share that sentiment; it's just that I've always heard, something like: "Who's he think he is----he's a n!gger, just like the rest of us".
As for people calling him, a "coon": I don't think I've ever heard, that----but, I DO agree that there's black people, out there, who share that sentiment; it's just that I've always heard, something like: "Who's he think he is----he's a n!gger, just like the rest of us".
Morgan Freeman I always had respect for even before he said that. A lot of the morons here (One who especially has terrible reading comprehension) think I would hate him but I know who I am, they don't. He makes SJWs upset because he smashes a lot of their paradigms.
Phil from The Advise Show is the worst out of them all. He's like a black version of Pat Robertson. He actually thinks God is going to jugde all white people.
Wow, if that's true, God is running way behind schedule! One of his followers said he was praying to God for an especially hot summer so all white people would die. Campin_Cat wrote:
IMO/experience, that's because there's entirely too many Liberals, nowadays, who like to think WAAAAAY too much of themselves, by puffin'-out their chest, and saying: "Look at me----here's me, championing a cause----ain't I WONDERFUL!!"----and, the irony of it, is that alot of black people aren't buyin' it (cuz they see it, for what it actually, IS), and are laughin' at them; and, I'm laughin' right-along with 'em, cuz their actions are just too stupid, for words!! LOL
Roaming Millenial's detractors are typically ghetto morons who don't know anything outside MTV and celebrity culture. Crack and public library computers tend to make for some hilarious comments.
19 Aug 2017, 1:16 pm
Some people showed up to show solidarity with Charlottesville outside the American embassy in Oslo today. A speech was held about how important it is to stand against extreme views no matter if it's coming from left or right. Which might seem a bit strange and ironic when you notice that the communist flag is being flown to the left there, as well as the flag of the Norwegian communist party on the right. The white sign says "Never again nazism! No Trump no hate". They also have a "Women's march" banner for some reason.
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