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16 Oct 2019, 7:04 pm

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I doubt any of those scientists knew labor from concentration camps would be worked to death prior to having been brought on board.
In fact, no Germans had been executed for refusing to be involved with concentration camps. They were just sent to other duties. Still, remaining German war criminals use that excuse.
Certainly there were many Germans who had died at the hands of the Nazis. Mostly for opposing Hitler (or even trying to assassinate him, like Stauffenberg, Rommel, Cannaris, and others), political prisoners, gays, Jews, the disabled, etc.


You know, I think I finally see that American southerners used similar excuses in their defense of slavery during the Civil War. They still do to this day...



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16 Oct 2019, 7:07 pm

Why does everything have to get turned into a conversation about Nazis?



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16 Oct 2019, 7:09 pm

Book burnings were right up the Nazis’ alley....



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16 Oct 2019, 7:20 pm

This reminds me of a funny scene from The Golden Girls when Blanche told a story about how the people in her hometown Atlanta used to burn books when she was a little girl.

And she followed with "But Big Daddy (her father) was outraged! He grabbed that torch, climbed all the way to the top of that pile, and yelled "What are you people doing?! This is lunacy! You start a fire from the bottom!" :lol:



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16 Oct 2019, 7:22 pm

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Book burnings were right up the Nazis’ alley....


My guess is that in thousands of years of recorded history burning scrolls and books existed way before then and would exist to this day if Hitler's Nazi Germany never existed.

The fact is a lot of threads are turned into being about Hitler and Nazis.

It's an indicator to me that some have a pathological obsession.



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16 Oct 2019, 7:25 pm

EzraS wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Book burnings were right up the Nazis’ alley....


My guess is that in thousands of years of recorded history burning scrolls and books existed way before then and would exist to this day if Hitler's Nazi Germany never existed.

The fact is a lot of threads are turned into being about Hitler and Nazis.


Well Nazis have a lot in common with the Confederates and some racist Georgia southerners



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16 Oct 2019, 7:26 pm

And most people here suffer from OCD.



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16 Oct 2019, 7:27 pm

EzraS wrote:
Why does everything have to get turned into a conversation about Nazis?



Expediency and laziness... It's knee/jerk. Nazis are to book burning what the South is to slavery. Despite the fact that it's taken place elsewhere.


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16 Oct 2019, 7:28 pm

DoTheTw1zt wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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Book burnings were right up the Nazis’ alley....


My guess is that in thousands of years of recorded history burning scrolls and books existed way before then and would exist to this day if Hitler's Nazi Germany never existed.

The fact is a lot of threads are turned into being about Hitler and Nazis.


Well Nazis have a lot in common with the Confederates and some racist Georgia southerners


So do a plethora of other groups that have existed around the world for centuries.



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16 Oct 2019, 7:50 pm

EzraS wrote:
DoTheTw1zt wrote:
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kraftiekortie wrote:
Book burnings were right up the Nazis’ alley....


My guess is that in thousands of years of recorded history burning scrolls and books existed way before then and would exist to this day if Hitler's Nazi Germany never existed.

The fact is a lot of threads are turned into being about Hitler and Nazis.


Well Nazis have a lot in common with the Confederates and some racist Georgia southerners


So do a plethora of other groups that have existed around the world for centuries.


Honestly who really cares? The crimes against humanity commited by the Nazis and Confederates left a much bigger impact on Americans and other countries than those other groups.



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16 Oct 2019, 7:53 pm

Yes, indeed, book burning were up many peoples' alleys for many centuries.

Many people other than Nazis.

The common thread in book burnings---is that they are negative and reactionary. And there is the desire to prevent free exchange of ideas (a salient feature of fascism).



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16 Oct 2019, 8:56 pm

DoTheTw1zt wrote:
EzraS wrote:
DoTheTw1zt wrote:
EzraS wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Book burnings were right up the Nazis’ alley....


My guess is that in thousands of years of recorded history burning scrolls and books existed way before then and would exist to this day if Hitler's Nazi Germany never existed.

The fact is a lot of threads are turned into being about Hitler and Nazis.


Well Nazis have a lot in common with the Confederates and some racist Georgia southerners


So do a plethora of other groups that have existed around the world for centuries.


Honestly who really cares? The crimes against humanity commited by the Nazis and Confederates left a much bigger impact on Americans and other countries than those other groups.


The Nazis and Confederates are all dead. This is the 21st century. Why not still be worked up over the Roman Empire?



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16 Oct 2019, 8:57 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Yes, indeed, book burning were up many peoples' alleys for many centuries.

Many people other than Nazis.

The common thread in book burnings---is that they are negative and reactionary. And there is the desire to prevent free exchange of ideas (a salient feature of fascism).


Or a small group of people just didn't like a book.



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16 Oct 2019, 9:03 pm

EzraS wrote:
DoTheTw1zt wrote:
EzraS wrote:
DoTheTw1zt wrote:
EzraS wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Book burnings were right up the Nazis’ alley....


My guess is that in thousands of years of recorded history burning scrolls and books existed way before then and would exist to this day if Hitler's Nazi Germany never existed.

The fact is a lot of threads are turned into being about Hitler and Nazis.


Well Nazis have a lot in common with the Confederates and some racist Georgia southerners


So do a plethora of other groups that have existed around the world for centuries.


Honestly who really cares? The crimes against humanity commited by the Nazis and Confederates left a much bigger impact on Americans and other countries than those other groups.


The Nazis and Confederates are all dead. This is the 21st century. Why not still be worked up over the Roman Empire?


Because there are still people who support Confederate and Nazi ideologies? Like the KKK, Neo Nazis, and Skinheads?



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16 Oct 2019, 9:10 pm

there were burning and destructions recently in America in I think all 3
some conservative religious groups destroyed records they didn't like early Eighties
the white citizens council in the Fifties protested desegregation by burning " Negro " records
there were these late Seventies novelty disco record burnings - one in Chicago in particular



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16 Oct 2019, 9:58 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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It's a sign of fascism because actual fascists used to burn the books of people whom the fascists didn't like.

I don't think book-burnings are a good sign of things at all. I think they are a sign of potential trouble.

I certainly wouldn't burn any book----even "Mein Kampf." And I'm a Jew.

You know your history, Sly. You should know who used to do book-burnings all the time.


Facist did a lot of things, are we never allowed to do things facist did? Hitler was vegan and against smoking. So we shouldn’t hate vegans and all smoke right? Most our science and medical stuff came from nazis. NASA was nazi central and we’d never got to the moon without the nazis.

So no just cause people do something the facist did isn’t a sign of facism. This was a small group protesting a forced book nothing more.

Books are just any other object to me they aren’t special. I’ve burned Burke and I’ll do it again, I’ve thrown bunch a way too. Most people don’t care about books. They just another mass produced product to most of us.

You know they burn books thrown away or that don’t sell right?
Books are the past anyways made and sold less and less everything is going digital


German scientists who had been forced to join the SS in order to be used for top secret Nazi war projects got us to the moon.
The medical science gained from the Nazis came out of concentration camps where prisoners who were seen as less than human were used as test subjects by the Nazis. Not something most of us would brag about, even though the results have saved millions of lives.


They weren’t all forced and many chose to use slave labor for their projects. Why are you making excuses for nazis and human rights crimes.

We even later sent some of them back to face punishments for their crimes. It was simple we wanted Nazi tech so we hid their crimes and snuck them back to USA and gave them new identities. Anything to get leg up on the Russians.


Okay, true, but not all of them.

One always has a choice. I’d enter be shot then for example kill hundreds of people.
Quite a few Germans refused and were killed. They died for sacred Germany. They didn’t give up their honor and humanity to survive and make money.
Braun should have been tried and executed not put in charge of nasa
One of few men to be praised and shook hands with Hitler and US presidents.


I doubt any of those scientists knew labor from concentration camps would be worked to death prior to having been brought on board.
In fact, no Germans had been executed for refusing to be involved with concentration camps. They were just sent to other duties. Still, remaining German war criminals use that excuse.
Certainly there were many Germans who had died at the hands of the Nazis. Mostly for opposing Hitler (or even trying to assassinate him, like Stauffenberg, Rommel, Cannaris, and others), political prisoners, gays, Jews, the disabled, etc.

Germans who were sent to shoot Jews and refused were shot and thrown into the pits with the Jews. I got lectured on high school by a ww2 vet who saw the camps then spent his life researching and talking to witness and toured with a slideshow and preventions. He was highly paid. My teacher knew him and so got him to come in few times a year for her humanities class.
Just like they shot and killed those who retreated without orders. It was follow orders or die. They swore an oath to Hitler and the ss one you couldn’t back out of. Don’t belittle the ones who refused and died that’s not ok.
In hitlers Germany you followed orders or you died. Rommel and others found that out. The 6th army found that out. He even had his gfs sisters husband killed.

Bruan knew and didn’t care.


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