Will Trump be pulling a Richard Nixon on us?

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04 Dec 2019, 5:48 pm

Being "impeached" means virtually nothing.

It means you're being "indicted," and you'll stand trial in the Senate for the charges which you were "indicted" with.

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04 Dec 2019, 6:11 pm

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Being "impeached" means virtually nothing.

It means you're being "indicted," and you'll stand trial in the Senate for the charges which you were "indicted" with.

And we all know the GOP controlled senate has made it clear they have no intentions of removing Trump. It really is a waste. I wouldnt be surprised if this turns out to be political suicide for the Democrats.

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04 Dec 2019, 6:27 pm

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

Being "impeached" means virtually nothing.

It means you're being "indicted," and you'll stand trial in the Senate for the charges which you were "indicted" with.

You and me both.

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04 Dec 2019, 7:51 pm

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I thought we were all meant to be worried about Trump's Nazi fans? Wouldn't they kick off if he was impeached over a hoax? It's abdurd to think the corrupted Democrats are going after Trump because of corruption.

Are you serious?!?! Trump makes both parties look like paragons of honesty!

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04 Dec 2019, 8:07 pm

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Here is one thing I will predict. Whoever the next Democrat president is, the Republicans will show him/her no mercy. They will go after him/her the way the democrats have gone after Trump, because that precedence has been set. They will accuse him/her of anything and everything they can think of.

You don’t think they already did that with Obama? In the Democrats’ view, they did. So if Republicans do it too to the next Democratic President, we won’t see it as Republicans doing it in revenge for Trump or to teach us a lesson: Our takeaway will be, Republicans gonna Republican. Because Republicans did the same to Obama.

What's been leveled at Trump has far exceeded what Obama experienced. Bush got trashed too by the way.

I'm not talking about Republicans teaching Democrats a lesson. I am saying Democrats have considerably raised the level of attack a President gets.

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04 Dec 2019, 8:28 pm

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You don’t think they already did that with Obama?

And Clinton whom they actual impeached? We are so far down that path it’s the old normal.

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04 Dec 2019, 8:31 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:

beneficii wrote:

EzraS wrote:

You don’t think they already did that with Obama?

And Clinton whom they actual impeached? We are so far down that path it’s the old normal.

Just like mass shootings are the new "normal". It's sad...

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05 Dec 2019, 2:02 am

Everything Democrats accuse Trump of they are guilty of themselves.

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05 Dec 2019, 2:05 am

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Everything Democrats accuse Trump of they are guilty of themselves.

Really? When have the Democrats sold out to Russia, or sought to destroy political rivals by using desperately needed foreign aid as leverage? If you know of such things, then please, state them.

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05 Dec 2019, 2:50 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Everything Democrats accuse Trump of they are guilty of themselves.

Really? When have the Democrats sold out to Russia, or sought to destroy political rivals by using desperately needed foreign aid as leverage? If you know of such things, then please, state them.

I don't think he was reffering to fictional events.

And you yourself often say "and the Republicans don't?" regarding most any criticism towrds the Democrats. Which translates as the democrats are just as guilty as the republicans.

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05 Dec 2019, 2:58 am

EzraS wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Everything Democrats accuse Trump of they are guilty of themselves.

Really? When have the Democrats sold out to Russia, or sought to destroy political rivals by using desperately needed foreign aid as leverage? If you know of such things, then please, state them.

It's not a fictional event. There is talk of adding Trump's dalliances with Putin to the articles of impeachment. Whether Powell wants to accept it or not doesn't make it any less true.
At the moment, as Republicans are denying the mountain of evidence against Trump solely for the sake of party over country, they've gone far past anything the Dems have done in modern times. That's with the exception of Republicans like John Kassich, Steve Schmidt, and other conservatives with testicular fortitude to reject populist nationalism.

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05 Dec 2019, 5:13 am

As you know there are plenty of people who aren't republicans or trump fans who think the whole russia/ukraine circus is a sham.

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05 Dec 2019, 8:09 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Everything Democrats accuse Trump of they are guilty of themselves.

Really? When have the Democrats sold out to Russia, or sought to destroy political rivals by using desperately needed foreign aid as leverage? If you know of such things, then please, state them.

You watch CNN and MSNBC who lie about everything and have got everything wrong. Your input can be useful entertainment but isn't valid because it's coming from those clown world stations. And before you attack me or my sources, everything I said came true because the sources I use have called it right the whole way along. And Ezra is correct I'm not talking about fictional events and then making a judgement on those make believe fairy tales.

The biggest contributor to the Clinton Foundation was the Ukraine especially after the US led coup that removed an elected leader and put in place a US puppet. Then the Vice President and his son and stealing money from the country as well as John Kerry through his nephew. Biden used blackmail to have the prosecutor fired who was investigating his corrupt son who was earning a fortune for doing 2 conferences a year and NOT EVEN in the Ukraine. And before you parrot 'muh derp corrupt prosecutor' provide some evidence he was corrupt. It also seems the fake Steele Dossier came from Ukraine.

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05 Dec 2019, 8:11 am

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As you know there are plenty of people who aren't republicans or trump fans who think the whole russia/ukraine circus is a sham.

Not think, know! Progressive journalist Aaron Mate has torn it apart like he did with the Russiagate hoax. Poor Bill has just been trained to hate Trump so much by the Democrat stations that he can't think straight.

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05 Dec 2019, 5:36 pm

JohnPowell wrote:

Everything Democrats accuse Trump of they are guilty of themselves.

That may be, but it doesn't mean that we should tolerate such behavior from anyone.

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05 Dec 2019, 5:43 pm

kokopelli wrote:

JohnPowell wrote:

Everything Democrats accuse Trump of they are guilty of themselves.

That may be, but it doesn't mean that we should tolerate such behavior from anyone.

^ Good point

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