I have a question about the George Floyd incident.

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ironpony was seeking clarification as to why Floyd was not kept in the police vehicle, which I responded to. Which I'm now beginning to regret.

So if it was the fentanyl that caused asphyxiation, is it possible that the kneeling on the neck, could have boosted the fentanyl's progress of asphyxiation or no?

Prolly not ...... have been under its influence in the emergency room for migraine treatment , but the lights were so bright , I had to get up and leave , with the help of my husband at the time , but it certainly did not affect my ability to breathe during the entire time that they had me under its influence. It was a busy night though , so after the injection , they were being thoroughly distracted and did not acknowledge my pleas, to be put into a dark room ,
But perhaps he had used much more .

Oh okay. I'm sorry to hear that. My condonlences.

Just a little more...

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-court-docs-say-george-floyd-had-fatal-level-of-fentanyl-in-his-system/ar-BB18pb0p

If he was a habitual user his tolerance would be elevated; a dose that might kill someone who's been opioid naive for awhile wouldn't be likely to someone who's tolerant due to habitual usage.

That would be correct.

I'm not sure how high a person's tolerance can go, though, so don't know if what was almost 4 times a normal fatal level would be possible for a person to have adapted to. I'm also not aware of any testing has been done to see if there is an upper limit for this substance, beyond which tolerance is not possible.

So the pathologist said it was likely the fetanyl, just based on chances of what it would do to a non-user, or is it almost certainly the fetanyl? How certain is the pathologist?

Occam's razor would suggest otherwise.

Also, consider he had a panic/anxiety attack.
It seems he was hyperventilating.

BTW, one of the policemen can be heard telling him to take deep breaths, in response to him saying he can't breathe.

When the video first came out I felt that I was watching calculated cold blooded murder take place.

Now I have to admit there are mitigating circumstances involved.

However I think any type of restraint which involves putting pressure on the neck should be outlawed. Too many people have been asphyxiated due to being restrained by some type of neck hold.

I wouldn't say it was a calculated murder, because if it was Chauvin could have planned it better, like plan to murder him at a time when there is no one around with cell phones, and police body cams, and try to get rid of all the physical evidence, etc.

So I don't think it's calculated at all, unless I am missing something perhaps?

However, if this fentanyl is what caused Floyd's death, why is this cause of death report, just coming out now? The whole country has been violently rioting over this incident for months now, so didn't the state think it was probably in their best country's best interest to release the cause of death sooner, so people wouldn't be rioting over a murder, if the cause of death was a drug overdose?

What I'm saying is at first, not knowing what I know now, it looked calculated and callous.

As they say, perception is everything.

And there have been too many "I can't breath" deaths.

If Chauvin had not had his knee on Floyd's neck, and Floyd had perished anyways, this would have been a different situation.

moral of the story is that chauvin should have used better judgment.

Well it was said before on here that Floyd's breathing wasn't actually cut off, and that he wasn't being choked. But how do you since his voice naturally sounds like he is being choked, or there seems to be a lot of 'horse-ness' in his voice, naturally, so how does one tell therefore?

some people being restrained forcefully on the ground like that, is lethal, even without the drugs.